Stanford SIMR or Clarks Scholars?

<p>Hi,</p>

<p>I applied to both SIMR (stanford institutes of medical research) and the clarks scholars program at Texas Tech and was wondering which one I should pick in the event that I was accepted to both - not to say that I have been.</p>

<p>I know that both are highly selective and prestigious but I noticed a lack of Seimens and Intel Semifinalists for the past 2 years from the SIMR program when I checked their website. It seems that this isn't necessarily the case with the Clarks program. So, if there are any alums from these programs would you care to share what your experiences were and if there were ppl who did well at these competitions but just that they didn't get posted on the website?</p>

<p>For reference though, I am leaning towards SIMR because I am interested in doing Med and I think it would be more specific than the Clarks program in terms of this career path.</p>

<p>Any and all thoughts are appreciated!</p>

<p>Do you know for sure that SIMR doesn’t have many Intel and Siemens semifinalists, or does it just not mention them on the website? Note that a couple Clarkies are also going to ISEF this year, and in general we do pretty well at science fairs. See the Clark Scholars thread for information specifically about our experiences there.</p>

<p>Clark Scholars really is a fantastic experience, and we Clarkies were incredibly, perhaps disturbingly close by the end of the program. The research is amazing. I don’t know why you think Clark Scholars won’t be as specific to your career path; I’m sure plenty of mentors you could be matched to have interests in medical research. I just hope you emphasized that in your little research interest description thingy.</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Hi Proleteriat2…</p>

<p>My son appled to Simons, SSTP IOWA and HSHSP. Of the three, he has got decisions (accepted) on the first two and wait for the third. From financial perspective, the Simons looks good. Any advise?</p>

<p>I understand you went to Clarks program … any guidance?</p>

<p>I’d never heard of SSTP IOWA until you just mentioned it. I googled it just now. I’m not sure how good a program it is, but it doesn’t have the same national reputation as other programs, which means participants in that program probably haven’t won as many national awards. I can’t make any further comment, really. It does cost more money, though…</p>

<p>HSHSP, from what I hear, is a good program, but not spectacular in quality of research. It’s also a more expensive program. Simons is an excellent program, but you’ll have to go to an actual participant to actually learn anything about the details of the program.</p>

<p>I don’t know what kind of guidance you’re looking for, but Clark Scholars was an amazing program, probably similar to Simons in quality, but it’s much smaller (about a third as many participants), which changes the social dynamics of the program. It’s also free! (They give everyone a $750 stipend.)</p>

<p>So i looked up the list of intel sts semifinalists and seimens semifinalists and found that SIMR didn’t get a single one of those spots. Quite sad i must say but I know one person who did SIMR but didn’t bother entering either of the competitions so I’m not really sure if they didn’t enter if they just weren’t good.</p>

<p>So technically, I’ve already accepted SIMR’s offer but I’m thinking that if I get the acceptance to Clark’s I might have to dwell on this further. Any suggestions about what to do if I do if this happens? I can’t really just say “sorry I accepted your offer I wanna go somewhere else now”</p>

<p>Thanks</p>

<p>Out of 12 Clark Scholars, there were 2 or 3 siemens semifinalists, 3 sts semi-finalists. At least two have qualified for ISEF.</p>

<p>And not everyone at Clark applied to these programs (I would say half did?), so the success rate is quite high =] You also get $750 stipend and unlimited food, which translates to quite a sum if you’re gluttonous.</p>

<p>You get a $1500 stipend at SIMR, if it matters. That’s really a tough choice. I haven’t applied to Clark before, but I know that it’s quite competitive. Same with SIMR, but I got accepted this year. Location might be a concern because you have to commute to SIMR daily. Maybe same for Clark? Gotta consider these things too.</p>

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<p>Nope. You live on campus, and pretty much anything you’ll need is in walking distance. For things not within walking distance, either the chaperone will drive you, or, for field trips, two vans are used (and often, Dr. San Fran will be driving). Basically, you don’t have to spend any money.</p>

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<p>Well, sure you could. It’s just that it would be rude. I’m sure they have a waiting list, though…</p>

<p>simr is already out anyways :slight_smile:
No offense to your abilities, but dont count on getting into either. Even some of the best and brightest didnt get into simr, because it is highly competitive.
Count your eggs after they hatch. Dont get your hopes up early</p>

<p>I’ve already been accepted into SIMR, btw, so thats not the issue. I actually live right next to stanford so it would be extremelly convenient for me to drive daily plus that nice 1500 stipend. </p>

<p>Well i mean they’ve already told us to choose our institute and make an ID for the safety training session which I’ve completed. So, I think I’m pretty much stuck now, but i think I woulda chosen SIMR of Clarks cause of the convenience of not having to fly to texas and the fact that I’m gauranteed to be doing med stuff.</p>