<p>No, because none of them are at all rational - only rationalizations. No where in there do you say it was not WRONG to do (and by that omission, you essentially agree it WAS wrong), only that others were also WRONG (as if that should absolve you), and that you weren’t told it was wrong (indicating that you have no ability to recognize right and wrong for yourself - ample reason by itself to not be admitted). And if you can’t see that wrong is wrong, no matter how many others “get away with it”, no matter that you should have known better but claim you didn’t, then it’s not worth my time. See you later…lion.</p>
<p>erg stop feeding this.</p>
<p>nahs, I intervened in this discussion to debate the issue of justice - leave the “wrongness” or “correctness” untouched (I don’t know why you assume I am the OP, but anyways). My question was whether it was just to punish the OP while leaving a lot of applicants unpunished for the same act (checking their app status in advance via SunetID). My question was whether or not Stanford should have blocked this feature if it has been used for past two years if not more, as it is evident from the SunetID threads.</p>
<p>this thread is highly amusing 
i’ve been following the lion saga for quite a few pages, and here’s my 2 cents: he was initially accepted and then his admission was rescinded because of the whole SUnet fiasco thing (among other factors, perhaps?). case closed.</p>
<p>ok, i’m done lurking now.</p>
<p>WHY WOULD STANFORD INTENTIONALLY KEEP A LOOPHOLE OPEN (the SUNet method) FOR TWO YEARS? THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT IT’S NOT DIRECTLY WRONG TO TRY AND ACCESS A METHOD OF PREDICTION ON A WEBSITE (the SUNet method). HOW IS THAT DIRECTLY WRONG? IT HASN’T EVEN BEEN PROVEN TO WORK, EVEN THOUGH IT APPEARS IT DOES. IT’S NOT PROVEN! STANFORD HAS NEVER SAID IT DOES! SURE, LION SHOULD NOT HAVE TRIED IT, AND THEN PROCEED TO ENTER ADDITIONAL PERSONAL INFO, BECAUSE THAT IS PROBABLY HOW HE WAS DETECTED. IF LION WAS FOR SURE ADMITTED (WHICH WE DON’T SEEM TO KNOW EITHER), THE SUNet METHOD SHOULD NOT BE GROUNDS FOR REJECTION. THAT IS WHAT THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IS ABOUT.</p>
<p>if you want people to actually read what you wrote and/or take you seriously, you should probably not write a wall of text in caps. lawl</p>
<p>And trying to access the SUNet is not “hacking.” Its merely an attempt to see if you can get in. Hacking is something far different. Putting in your ID and seeing if it works is not “hacking.”</p>
<p>@crdnlnwhite - STOP SHOUTING! relax</p>
<p>hey sssunglasses, you’re probably right. writing in all caps is pretty stupid! this whole thing is very weird.</p>
<p><em>righting</em> in all caps? i think you mean “writing”, but we’ll just let it slide.</p>
<p>nahs, it’s not wrong to try and access some network.</p>
<p>who are you even responding to?</p>
<p>i didn’t type <em>righting,</em> where did that come from?</p>
<p>you definitely did. i’m sure my eyes didn’t deceive me. you must’ve just fixed your blunder now. sneaky >.></p>
<p>better take off your sunglasses so you can see straight, sssunglasses.</p>
<p>ha…so witty. and i’m positive you typed “righting”, so suck it!</p>
<p>Oh and by the way there’s a window to the admission office where the latch is broken. Its on the first floor so its real easy to get in. Just climb in and look to see if your application is in the “admit” basket. Then leave and no one will know - unless you are stupid enough to write “John Smith was here” on the wall. The latch has been broken for two years but they just found out that people were sneaking in (I guess someone told everyone on a chat board), so be sure to sneak in before they fix the latch and post a sign that says “please don’t sneak in.”</p>
<p>So nahs, is it just to punish the OP, while not punishing everyone who did the same?</p>
<p>nahs, I like the way you present your argument, and I do agree with your scenario, I think it’s a great analogy for this situation. But, my point is that in the SUNet situation, nobody has proven that your admission can be discovered, unlike in your story where it’s obvious that you’ll be able to find out by looking in the basket. Therefore, it is not directly wrong. I don’t know, that’s just me.</p>
<p>oh please - anyone who tried the SUnet thing to check for admittance had to know it was unscrupulous. stanford didn’t tell anyone to check their application status that way, did they? no. so…why would anyone think it’s okay/condoned by the university?</p>