<p>I agree with everyone else. Choose based off of fit–all are great options.</p>
<p>Furthermore, take the whole “average science grade at Brown is an A-” with a grain of salt. Mind you, Brown students have the option to take any class pass/fail or for a letter grade (with the exception of madatory pass/fail classes). Obviously, if you know you’re going to get an A in the class (or even if you simply enjoy, say, orgo for the heck of it), you will take it for a letter grade. Pass/fail is not included in those statistics so they are highly skewed.</p>
<p>“When the average science grade is an A-, if you cant’ do well at Brown, you can’t make it anywhere”
-I don’t agree with this at all. Science and math classes at Brown are not easy (especially the intro level courses)–far from it. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong. 'Nuff said.</p>
<p>^^Do you dispute the fact that the average grade is an A-? (If I recall, I got that from ModestMelody, a big Brown supporter.)</p>
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<p>Sure they are skewed, so what? The Stats are the numbers. No need to defend a policy that makes Brown great.</p>
<p>Yeah, it ain’t good to take required premed courses P/F, but changing a C- in Macro Econ or Philosophy to a Pass on the last possible day just ain’t possible at too many schools. But more to the point, the fact that P/F is so generous means that plenty of kids in plenty of courses can just cruise for a P and not work as hard as they otherwise wold, i.e., bring the course mean down with them. Instead of working harder for a B, anyone with the smarts to get into Brown can cruise for a P (C).</p>
<p>Oh, I’m not disputing the average grade at Brown at all. It is what it is. I just don’t think it’s a wise idea to tell future students that science classes at Brown should be easy because of what the average science grades tells us.</p>
<p>And Brown students do have a deadline as to when they can utilize the P/F option. It’s really only like the first month or so of classes–after that, you’re on your own. But personally, in my experience, I have yet to meet a person taking a class P/F just totally blow off the work–I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but people at Brown really do take their work seriously and are hard workers. Why is it hard to believe that grades are high simply because people work hard and enjoy what they study? (Slightly rhetorical, but slightly not)</p>
<p>Never said that. (Perhaps critical reading skills are in order…)</p>
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<p>But it is hard to believe, at least for me, that Brownies work “harder” than kids at MIT, Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Caltech, to name a few, all of which have lower grade averages, and three of which are of interest to the OP. It’s all relative. Of the four, Brown WILL be easier; it has to be. But that doesn’t mean it’s easy.</p>
<p>fwiw: Statistically, and by definition, one college HAS to have the highest gpa means. What I find fascinating is the defensiveness of the Brownies over their policy. :)</p>
<p>Alright so you didn’t use the word “easy” but you certainly implied it by saying “when the average science grade is an A-, if you cant’ do well at Brown, you can’t make it anywhere.” That, in my eyes, basically screams Brown should be a cake-walk compared to X-university—not true.</p>
<p>And I NEVER said kids at Brown work “harder” than kids at the schools you listed. Perhaps critical reading is in order for you. I don’t think kids at Brown work harder than those students, but I do believe that we work just as hard.</p>
<p>I personaly don’t care about this whole average GPA thing–it really has no effect on me because GPA isn’t even calculated at Brown. I’m just trying to correct false information given to people who know very little about the school.</p>
<p>Oh, I just noticed that you are PLME gpf1192! That’s really awesome! I’m not PLME, but I know lot’s of people who are—look forward to an awesome orientation week for youself! PLME people get some extra “attention” and advising–well warrented in my opinion though! 'Tis exciting!!!</p>