<p>Which one should I take for the summer?
I will be in Berkeley for summer sessions, so I figured I might as well take the in-class Stat 21. I figured Stat N21 was primarily for students who would like to take a summer class at home. </p>
<p>However, it seems like Stat 21 with Ibser has a pretty harsh curve, whereas Stat N21 with Stark is much more lax. There is no required textbook for Stat N21, but I hear that the online textbook isn't helpful. Could anybody help me decide which one to take?</p>
<p>Hmm, there’s only a lecture size of 60 for Stat 21 with Ibser during the summer. Does that make a difference compared to a larger lecture size during the school year?</p>
<p>During the regular semester, only 20% of the class can get an A and 30% can get a B. In a class of 400 students, you have a better chance. If he is using the same curve for the summer with 60 students in the class, then its gonna be even more competitive for the good grades.</p>
<p>But it’s proportional right? Even if the lecture size is smaller, the same grade distribution applies. I’d be competing against less students.</p>
<p>I’m not sure what to think right now. I hear good things and bad things about Professor Ibser, mainly that the curve is brutal. Who are the people that beat the curve and wind up with an A? How much work does it take to achieve that? I’ve taken AP Statistics and hopefully that will help. It’s complicating because if the difference between Ibser and Stark is that great, I might have to change my fall schedule and try and sign up for Stats 21 with Stark. I would much rather take the in-class version than the online version. Is it worth the trouble?</p>
<p>The proportions are the same however when it is a smaller class, there are less slackers plus anyone who takes stat 21 in the summer is gonna do the best they can. So even though the proportions are the same, its gonna be harder to get a good grade.</p>
<p>If you take ibser, this is my advice: Mathematically, Stat 21 is easy, the hard part is knowing when to use which method to solve the problem. When you are learning the material, focus more on the methods and why those methods apply and others don’t in certain situations. He likes to test peoples understanding that way.</p>
<p>If I learned anything from stats that applies to the real world, it’s that smaller samples deviate farther from expected. Thus the worst classes in Berkeley are the smallest ones, because those are the ones where despite your hardest effort, the fact that there are three people in the class better than you means that you can’t get a A in the class.</p>
<p>even though that is the case,
however, since stark is so well known (as a good teacher), we might not be able to register for his classes on time. then we’re stuck with the REALLY HARD TEACHERS. </p>
<p>for example, I have to take stats 20/21 before spring semester, which leaves me with summer and fall</p>
<p>for summer there’s ibser</p>
<p>and for fall there’s purves, stark and Li Q . so If I don’t get Stark then I’ll be stuck with the difficult teachers.</p>