<p>Just Great....</p>
<p>Now that D has pretty much decided on UAz this article comes out. Hopefully things will be different in her major and in the honors dorms.</p>
<p>I have a niece who is strongly considering UofA, honors program. I went to their website and they listed out of ~20K students, ~4.5K students are in the honors program. This seems to be a bit high where 1 in 4 is honors or is there other data that needs to be used?</p>
<p>jvd-
D is at the Barrett's Honors at ASu (from out of state).Has had a great 4 years. Lots of intellectual cohort available.Also loves the heat!
There's lots of Alaska kids in Arizona i guess for that reason.
She knows kids at both Honors Colleges (ASU and U of A).Astronomy kids pick U of A because of the Mt Lemon facilities and opportunities but the Mars Rover guys are at ASU. I think there's alot of give and take within the discipline and the two schools.The opportunities are what you make of them.Take advantage of the counseling,the help sessions,the lectures,study abroad,honors housing (to find that cohort)and thesis and internships.And you still get to go to football games.Rivalry between the Cats and Devils is fierce!!</p>
<p>I think that the point of the NYT story was that big Universities are the same everywhere. UF were we are residents, the school is called "flunk'm out U." They make no bones about the lower education classes being BIG and your just an number and that kids should seek out the professors in their majors. Three close friends of my D from HS left there because they felt they were just a number. She knows one guy from our hockey team that drank every night and still has skated by, he is very proud of his drinking. I think that you will find those same students at FSU, ASU and UT Austin. I went to ASU and it was all drinking all the time in the early 80's.</p>
<p>My D had the full ride in at UF but chose U of A because of the difference in honors programs and in freshman center. While on the "tour" our guide was an honors student and that helped us. She explained the UofA General edu classes they try to have the classes small-- by state school standards (90 vs at UF 500) the honors sections of those classes are smaller. </p>
<p>JVD the kids in the honors college are just different, most are the for an education.</p>
<p>Cathymee and afa81, thanks for the reassurance. D is coming back from her outdoor leadership trip tomorrow. I don't think I will show her this article. She already knows there are plenty of goof-offs at a school like UA. She was impressed with the kids at the honors dorm.</p>
<p>One thing to look at for people not from SC is the Honors College at University of South Carolina. USC has an awesome scholarship program for out of staters (McNair Scholars) and in staters (Carolina Scholars). They are the same thing just for different groups.</p>
<p>I am a Carolina Scholar and I got full tuition, room, board, books, etc... and I just got a letter with all of my perks yesterday. Free IBM $2,400 laptop, laptop carrying case, 256 MB Flash Drive, Digital Video Camera, First choice housing, registration, parking. I mean you really can't beat that.</p>
<p>Just bumping this for those reading the new thread about UA in the New York Times.</p>
<p>My D says that the campus is pretty upset ("a buzz" her words)at the way the NYT portrayed them. As an honors student there and a member of ASUA board she thought they didn't focus enough on the good. Only one normal student, they all are pretty mad. Also she has an EX that is at Yale they talk all the time to each other on thefacebook.com, he parties as hard as anyone and he has told her that his parents would be mortifed if they knew how much he isn't taking advantage of his educational opportunities. I just wish that they would have gone to others schools with the same story angle.</p>
<p>do a search for University of Mississippi. I have daughter in the honors college at Ole Miss and have now posted information and link. It is AWESOME !! Deserves the recognition</p>
<p>Sally McDonnell Barksdale Honors College - Ole Miss </p>
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<p>I have a daughter who is completing her sophomore year at the University of Mississippi in the Honors College. She graduated from high school via the path through the college prep/AP/Honors/Dual Credit program with 12 year average of 4.0.</p>
<p>In the Sally McDonnell Barksdale Honors College at Ole Miss, students are required to take many honors course taught at the Honors College facilities each semester. The classes are small (about 15 to a class) and students get a lot of individual attention. They are also required to do a set amount of community service each semester and and attend other lectures and events on campus. These honors student also travel to do research projects or special services each year. Study Abroad is also a part of the honors program.</p>
<p>The link below is to the honors college. Requirements, photo galleries of events, and much more can be found at this site which is maintained by the honors students.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.honors.olemiss.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://www.honors.olemiss.edu/</a></p>
<p>My daughter has had and is having a tremedous experience being a part of the Sally McDonnell Barksdale Honor College and is proud of the fact that the Honors College has been recognized by Reader's Digest as one of the top 3 in the nation. She has had the opportunity to travel to many places in the US and will be leaving in May for the Study Abroad Program in Osaka, Japan.</p>
<p>This Honors College is well worth checking into and/or visiting.</p>
<p>Any input on Honors Colleges would be appreciated. It is hard to find information about the Honors Colleges additional from the school's website. Let's continue documenting your experience and benefits of the specific programs.</p>
<p>I am copying the link to a discussion for ASU and UofA Honors College - may be we can consolidate the isolated discussions in this thread</p>
<p>Thanks to all for posting info regarding Honors programs. This is a big help. </p>
<p>Anyone else with info???</p>
<p>My daughter is now in her Junior year and we are still extremely pleased. She will be doing a second study abroad by stipend to Puerto Rico. The honors college not only covers academics but teach life skills and more. Each student is required to do a set number of hour of philanthropy. </p>
<p>She spend a year tutoring elementary kids in math and reading which was a very rewarding experience for her. She has traveled to Chicago and spent a week teaching art an dance to kids at the Big Brother and Big sister Foundation helping the kids self-esteem. The works with Habitat for Humanity and Links to Literacy as well as many others.</p>
<p>It has been and is more than we every anticipated.</p>
<p>I bought a book about the various honors colleges but it doesn't rank them. Where can I find some kind of ranking. Someone earlier mentioned a Readers Digest ranking. Where is that? </p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>These rankings were listed in the May, 2005 issue of Reader's Digest.</p>
<p>I just went to readers digest web site and did a search in the archives and couldnt find it.</p>
<p>All I could find was a statement that Penn st honors college was number 1. Couldn't find any list of ranking of honors colleges. </p>
<p>Does anyone have a back issue of Readers Digest 2005 and is willing to type up a list (or scan)?</p>
<p>I think that the argument that honors college at state schools are somehow unfair because they create a "two tier" system at the school is shallow thinking. Afterall, many states have several state supported schools and some are "better" than others and have better teachers and smaller classes. Different state schools (within the same state) are not obligated or expected to accept the same caliber of people to their campuses. The fact that honors colleges are on the same campus is irrelevant (what if they moved them off-campus -- many have their own "names" already. The results would be the same. </p>
<p>For instance, the state of CA has 20+ state supported schools. The best get accepted to UC Berkeley and UCLA. Those kids get the best teachers, etc. No one says that the UC Berkeley teachers should be "spread around" so that the "average" student has access to those teachers. No one claims that it isn't "democratic" that the "elite" (cream of the crop) get to go to Berkeley and UCLA and get the best teachers the state has to offer. One could argue that the UC system is the "Honors program" and the Cal State system is the "regular" program. (Yes, I know some of these colleges have honors programs, but that misses my point.) My point is that "state" schools within a state are never going to be equal.</p>
<p>I haven't read this whole string but I believe the personality of individual student may be a big factor in if this is a good strategy or not for that student. My oldest is very self modivated and I assume will push herself to do her best where she attends college ... so an honors school startegy may work very well for her. My second tends to seak the level of the pack ... and he responds very well to being thrown into deep water ... for him being in an environment where the majority of (whole schools) students are serious students will probably work better for him and therefore the honors school approach does not seem like a good fit.</p>