Stats for the following schools? Hard or not?

International Students
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<p>Could anyone give me stats on the following schools? More importantly on GPA and ACT, I don't care about the SAT. I have the TOEFL covered since I scored a 115 iBT. Also, how hard is it to get into them? Realisticaly speaking of course. </p>

<p>Vassar
Northwestern
Carleton
Trinity College
Duke
Lehigh
St. Olaf
Antioch
U of Chicago </p>

<p>My tops are Vassar and Duke, but before giving out stats or asking to be chanced I need to be realistic and see if it's even worth it to apply. </p>

<p>Also, which schools (that are NOT ivy leagues) meet the need of international students?</p>

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<p>You will find the stats available online and through such search engines as here on College Confidential</p>

<p>[CollegeView</a> - College Finder & Recruiting Service](<a href=“http://www.collegeview.com/index.jsp]CollegeView”>http://www.collegeview.com/index.jsp)</p>

<p>or collegeboard.com and princetonreview.com</p>

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<p>Keep in mind that competition among international financial aid applicants is much more keen than the general admissions process. Focus on schools where you score above the 75th percentile on the ACT and assume that the international admission rate is below 10% (even at colleges with a 40% admission rate overall). </p>

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Many liberal arts colleges do. Check the top 50 liberal arts colleges in the US News ranking.</p>

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<p>Barium, I have read your posts around this site and you seem to know so much! A question, do you think it’s a good idea to apply ED? I am considering applying to Vassar ED (regardless of whether I get in or not) is it true that it can improve someone’s chances? Some people have said yes, some people say no. I’d like to see your opinion. </p>

<p>I’m not all that worried about aid. Last year, my sister applied to around 30 LAC (I know that’s a lot, she was on a run!) and she got great aid from all of them. And her stats weren’t that good, I have better ones than she does. She had a 24 ACT and a 3.2 GPA yet she got scholarships of over $20k a year. She even got above $30k in about 3 schools. She didn’t apply to harder schools like I am planning to so maybe that may be it, but anyway I know for a fact that if you look well for good aid you will get it. Also, looking for colleges where you are above the 75th percentile works, like you said.</p>

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<p>How much aid do you actually need? It’s not hard to get a partial tuition scholarship. It’s much more difficult to get funding covering tuition, room & board, which is what many international students on this forum are hoping for. </p>

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I don’t know. I have never found statistics detailed enough to draw a conclusion from them. I have noticed though that several colleges won’t consider international financial aid applicants in the ED round. Even if Vassar lets you, I don’t think applying ED is ever a good choice when finances are a concern. You <em>really</em> want to be in a position to compare aid packages. </p>

<p>Be aware that many colleges give less aid to ED applicants because they have already made a commitment to attend. No reason to court them with more money. (That even applies to colleges meeting 100% of demonstrated need. There’s a lot of leeway in how they assess your need, plus leeway in the composition of your aid package, e.g. loans vs grants.)</p>

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<p>Also, before you focus too much on schools awarding need-based aid, find out if you’d qualify for need-based aid at all. Some of the statements you have made on College Confidential make me think that your family might be too wealthy to qualify.</p>

<p>Here’s an EFC estimator that you can play with. Pay particular attention to the Institutional Methodology. <a href=“https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/pay-for-college/paying-your-share/expected-family-contribution-calculator[/url]”>https://bigfuture.collegeboard.org/pay-for-college/paying-your-share/expected-family-contribution-calculator&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;