<p>Anyone who was ever offered a full ride to Michigan, can you please share your stats/r</p>
<p>Does UMich offer any full rides? I think they used to offer something that was around $25k per year, not sure if that still exists, but that’s only half the cost of OOS COA. </p>
<p>What are your stats? Are you OOS? If so, and you need aid, then UMich isn’t likely the school that will get you that aid.</p>
<p>The Shipman used to be full tuition, R&B (on campus only) for OOS students, it isn’t anymore. Shipman stats depend somewhat on which college you’re applying to, LSA is the most competitive, with recipients also being accepted to highly selective privates (think HYPS).</p>
<p>UM has abot a third of its students getting merit awards. The average amount of the awards is $6K. The kids I know who got about $10K were contenders for schools like Colgate, Bowdoin, Carnegie Mellon, etc. They were HYPS material, IMO, but did not get accepted to the very top schools, though I am sure there are kids who were offered such an award and went elsewhere. The small group I know, actually went there. It was a good deal for them as the OOS costs were about $10K less than the other private schools on their lists and with another $10K discount, it made for $80K in pure savings over 4 years for a top school. Not bad at all, in fact, very good.</p>
<p>@cptofthehouse is that 6K for each year of undergrad studies?</p>
<p>The common data does not break it down that way. It’s just gives you a snapshot of that one year. That year, aabout oa third of all students got merit money. You average all of the awards and it comes to about $6K a kid out of those getting the money. But some would be getting maybe $20K or whatever, and some maybe only $1K or even less, who knows? Also, most merit awards have a contingency, so, yes, kids lose the awards each year. However, most of the time, unless specifically stated, merit money awarded as a freshman is expected to be renewed each year if the recipient meets the qualifications foor renewal. So the $6K figure is an average for one year. IF the freshman recipients all kept their awards, it would mean an average of $24K over 4 years, is the assumption.</p>
<p>OP if you are in-state UofM will meet need. It is a profile college, but you should theoretically get your need met. If you are out of state and highly qualified it is possible to get a couple sources of scholarship/merit, but rarely would it equal $50,000 a year. If you are out of state consider it a reach university, apply and see what happens, but make sure you have ‘better bets’ on your list if you need alot of aid or your parents cannot afford to send you there. Michigan is quite forthright about telling the world that the out of state students and internationals are THERE because of the money they bring in to the college. Numerous quotes from the college president on this topic.</p>
<p>What are your stats? </p>
<p>Are you OOS? If so, and you need aid, then UMich isn’t likely the school that will get you that aid.</p>
<p>In my experience, Michigan meets a large chunk of your need for OOS applicants if you show SUBSTANTIAL (emphasis on substantial!) need. I’m from New York City. Two of my friends (let’s call them K and J) and I have incomes of approximately 20k. J and I got about 33k in grants and K got around 45k. CoA is about 53k right now, so it’s still a sizable gap, but that’s honestly still a lot of grant money for an OOS public. I myself got a 20k scholarship from Michigan to make it a full ride and I think I was a pretty average applicant (you can go through my old posts for my stats if you don’t believe me…) A good chunk of the admitted students last year (I think ~15 or ~80) at my school actually got merit scholarships from Michigan and I don’t think any of us are really spectacular.</p>
<p>As a MI taxpayer, the above post does not make me very happy (unless all the grant money is coming from endowments made for the purpose of assisting OOS students). I would much prefer that merit go to in state students … I know in state kids with awesome stats who didn’t get merit at UM.</p>
<p>I would not fret, Kelsmom. My guess is that Attribute comes from a top independent or one of the specialty NYC schools. Michigan does look carefully at AP scores, difficulty of curriculum and SAT/ACt scores, particularly in the are of major. Look at the common data sets and you can see that it’s not really such a generous school for Merit. The ones I know who got great merit money tended to get departmental awards, hnto admissions office ones. </p>
<p>Where do you go to school, Attribute? And what were our AP scores, and your major and your SAT scores. My guess is close to perfect on the ACT or a section of the SAT, and some killer AP test scores here.</p>
<p>I think Attribute is a female engineer, so the generous pkg may have had to do with that as well.</p>
<p>Asian male going into engineering. Went to Bronx Science if that means anything. Just going to reiterate the fact that (based on my experience and the experiences of two other friends) Michigan does offer decent need based aid to OOS admits with significant need (<20k income), but will still gap you with a sizeable chunk.</p>
<p>I understand your point kelsmom. I get that a lot and I feel terrible. I’m sorry.</p>
<p>kels, I stalk the U of M forum on here a lot. Even OOS VERY low income kids do not tend to get great aid packages unless they’re really wanted. I think attribute’s situation is unique.</p>
<p>I think Romani is right. Very occasionally I’ll see some generous pkgs to OOS UMich students. Sometimes the reasons aren’t obvious. Don’t know what criteria is used. I can understand Kels concern if Mich taxpayers’ funds are being used, but probably not. </p>
<p>Even the merit at UMich is oddly awarded to OOS students. We’ve seen kids with near-perfect stats get no merit. I’ve seen a student from my kids’ high school with good-but-not-really-high stats get a $10k per year merit award.</p>
<p>UNC-Ch and UVA also like high need, high stats OOSers, though after the bait and switch UVA did on one family with a low EFC, I don’t think they have the funds to match that desire. It’s very difficult, believe it or not to get those stats from PELL eligible students, so they are snatched up. </p>
<p>Did you get a departmental award, Attribute?</p>
<p>Mom2, the $10K is more typical of what I’ve seen. A sweet deal for OOSers as that brings the price down for a very fine school to the $40K level. </p>
<p>The kids from my son’s school did not get merit but some got accepted with stats that made my eyebrows go up a bit. I guess they are paying for those awards. And I do know a female engineering major who got accepted, the DD of a close friend, and she got zippo in any awards. Stats not quite there. Georgia Tech is paying for her.</p>
<p>But the thing with anecdotes is that if you find a nest of a certain situation you can truly get the wrong picture. Looking at the Common data tells you the story better. Michigan isn’t giving out that many merit awards, perod. Not a place to go sniffing for high returns in merit funds. My son will probably apply there, and I tdon’t think he’ll get a dime. A $10K merit award would make it doable for him.</p>
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<p>Oh I very much disagree with this. There are almost 10 million Pell recipients every year. There are more than enough high stats Pell recipients to fill seats at top schools but most aren’t reached out to by these schools.</p>
<p>Yep, cptofthehouse, it was departmental. Not sure where the funding for those come from though. For the recipients at my schools, the LSA kids got the 10k Jean Fairfax and the engineering kids got departmentals.</p>