<p>heh, it isn't my business to post her personal life on the web; it's unfortunate, because she's had it rough and you'd reconsider the "horrible" nature of the situation. One doesn't have the chance to worry about education at the crucial age when one's main concern is survival.</p>
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There's more to this story than just numbers, so stat mongers, screw off.
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<p>Here's a little anecdote. Two years ago at my school, a kid w/straight As got rejected from Cornell and Notre Dame, probably because of his horrible (well, not great) test scores. He got a 4.0 at UMich freshman year, and transfered to Notre Dame.</p>
<p>I have a friend who got a 1600, but her hs GPA certainly wasn't a 4. She was rejected from Ivies, and she now has a low 3 at Wake.</p>
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<p>I'm sorry that work ethic and test scores lack any correlation.</p>
<p>U-Mich admits a handful of students with low test scores every year if these students enroll in their summer program. This is hardly a revolutionary practice--other instutitions do this as well.</p>
<p>The University is in a better position to make its decisions than self-righteous teenagers. Michigan has a legacy of excellence--they know what they're doing.</p>
<p>Goblue and Roadrunner, there are many things we do not know. Perhaps this girl comes from a low income family and had to work to support help support her family. Perhaps her parents were not even present or abusive and she had to overcome unsurmountable odds. Maybe she is a URM, in which case, a 22 on tha ACT is not unheard of. Perhaps she took a bunch of AP classes and aced them but simply couldn't do well on the ACT. My own sister was always a great student (graduated from Georgetown with a 3.8 GPA) but she barely got over a 1000 on the SAT. Top universities sometimes recognize the potential of a student, even if we cannot see it.</p>
<p>At the end of the day, you are going to have extreme cases where a student with low scores will get in.</p>
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U-Mich admits a handful of students with low test scores every year if these students enroll in their summer program. This is hardly a revolutionary practice--other instutitions do this as well.
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This is true from my experience. There is a kid at my high school who isn't a URM. He happens to be really intelligent, but also very lazy and has a low 80's average (out of 100), yet he's much more confident about his chances to Stanford because he's attended their summer program for two summers.</p>
<p>Absolutely true. I have known unremarkable students who attended Dartmouth and Stanford. The difference is that at a school as large at Michigan, the number of unremarkable students who get in is significantly larger than at a school like Dartmouth. But it happens everywhere.</p>
<p>two years ago, a white male from my school with a 23 ACT got in. High 3 GPA and lots of ECs (e.g., president of class 4 years and student body president).</p>
<p>Out of State, Buffalo NY (applied mid nov, completed mid dec)
1460 SAT
4.0 UW GPA
Average leadership based ec's
great rec's
+ a very risky essay about Michigan's old AA quota policy, pretty much saying it was BS :P</p>
<p>I just found out I got accepted yesterday via WA. I assume it was posted friday.</p>
<p>Out of state-Southern CT
32 ACT, 2130 SAT
760,710 SATII (Math II and Lit)
3.6 Umich GPA (upward trend)
Application finished-10/26</p>
<p>Decent Extra-Cirrics with leadership positions and part-time job
5 AP Classes
Good Recs and essays</p>
<p>I'm really happy to get accepted after not having luck with my ED. I'm probably gonna end up at UMICH rooting for Chad Henne and Michael Hart, sick football team.</p>
<p>ecohen121 -- When my daughter was applying to colleges, her teachers all gave her copies of her recommendations. Some schools do this, some don't.</p>
<p>I got a 23 on my act's and I'm sure as hell I'm not proud of it. My parents spent a lot of money on a test prep course (kaplan to be exact) and I spent my entire summer studying for the act's. I was aiming for a 28, but obviously it didn't happen. I retook it again and got the same score. I worked my ass off just for one test. Not everyone is a good test taker, because I pretty much had a nervous breakdown one week before I had to take the test. I deserve to be accepted to U of M..and if you don't think that...then that's your problem. I've gotten straight A's in my classes and I never ever go out with my friends and have fun. Not everyone can ace a stupid standardized test, some are better essay writers and to make those remarks about how people with a 22 shouldn't be accepted is very unacceptable.</p>
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I've gotten straight A's in my classes and I never ever go out with my friends and have fun.
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<p>I see this more as a reason you shouldn't get in rather than a reason you should. Despite Michigan's large, public status, it, like most colleges, is looking for students to add diversity and culture and excitement to its student body, and if you're the type who stays locked up in your room all the time working on homework, it's really hard to contribute to the university outside of the classroom. If this is reflected in your application, the university will not look upon it favorably.</p>
<p>Guys, I think Smurfette is trying to say that she did not waste her time aimlessly. </p>
<p>Smurfette, I agree with you. My sisters are both highly accomplished academically...much better students than me, but I score much higher than either one of them on standardized tests. Universities know that, so there is always a chance.</p>
<p>Van Wilder, which is one of the best movies accurately describing college life.. ;) lol I wish.. gives good advice. If you tak life too seriously you'll never get out alive. I think the most successful college student (both academically and socially) can find that balance between working your ass off in the classroom and being able to really cut loose and have a good time. One without the other spells trouble, but together can give a truly rewarding experience.</p>
<p>Chibearsfan17- Who are you to tell me what Michigan sees as favorable or unfavorable? You're not an admissions officer, so do us both a favor and let U of M decide whether I'm a match for their school or not. My sister is an alumni and never partied and she's doing fine as ever. My parents are paying for me to recieve an education...not to party. If you want to party...go to Michigan State because they're known for that type of atmosphere. </p>
<p>I'm just sick of people trying to define what my qualifications and my abilities are based on ONE test. It doesn't reflect what's truly in here <em>points to my brain</em>. It absolutely disgusts me how people have to tear down other people just because it makes them feel better or seem superior. Everyone I know says that I deserve to be at U of M and that includes my friends, family and teachers. Not everyone is a good test taker. For instance...I do a lot better on essays because I'm a better writer. So quit being boorish and show some decency for those who are really trying to get in and have been working hard to get in.</p>
<p>I think I have a 3.9 GPA Unweighted (two B+'s all rest A's)
3 AP's
1970 SAT (best composite from all sittings)
1950 (best from 1 sitting)
710M
640V
620W
Top 2% class rank out of 766
decent EC's
reccomendations were very good
essays were pretty good i thought
out of state (CA)</p>
<p>i most likely wont attend if i get into Berkeley or dont get into the business program at U MICh.</p>