<p>I was looking at the Fall courses for a stats course to fulfill my pre-med req, yet all of the profs are horrible, according to rate my professor. What do you recommend I do or whcih stats class should I take?</p>
<p>Oh, man, isn't it Cornell?</p>
<p>I just wanted to know if this was common, that's all. Sorry.</p>
<p>i also want to know which stats course is w. good prof and easier plezzz</p>
<p>bump bump</p>
<p>Actually I didn't mean to make you feel sorry. I thought there were not any bad professors at all. So are there?</p>
<p>take AEM 210!!! (in the spring) Soooooooo easy and the professor is really really fun</p>
<p>You'll find bad professors wherever you go. I haven't heard about very many, but they apparently exist.</p>
<p>Cornelli2008, thanks for the advice!
but AEM 210 offered in the fall as well? cuz i was looking to take stats in the fall.. and if it is, do you know whether the prof is good? thanks!</p>
<p>yea please comment on the good stats profs. Thanks so much.</p>
<p>any advice on whether AEM stat is easier or ILR? thanks much in advance!</p>
<p>Seeing so many posts about looking for <em>easy</em> stats classes makes me sad. Being able to produce sophisticated analysis of raw data is one of the very most valuable things you can take out of a college education, and one the most difficult things to learn after you leave.
I admit that I don't know what the best applied intro stats course is, but here's a list of those that I know of: econ 219-220, econ 221, ilrst 212, pam 2??, and aem 2??. Based on my conversations with various students, my guess is that ILR's (Velleman) is better than AEM's.</p>
<p>I've heard that ILR, AEM and PAM stats are the favorites</p>
<p>AEM is better than PAM which is better than ILR. better=/= easier. </p>
<p>AEM 210 is only in the spring because AEM 410 is in the Fall. 410 is business stat basically stat II.</p>
<p>AEM 210 is definitely the best way to go if you want an easy stats class. The prof is absolutely amazing (van Es)...she makes the class as interesting as learning about statistics can be. Very perky and enthusiastic. I didn't even go to all the lectures the second half of the semester (I just went to section, which is mandatory) and got a 95 on the final and an A in the class. I understood all the statistical data in the articles we had to read in BioEE 278 (evolution), so AEM 210 did a good prep job that carried over into scientific studies. A lot of my friends took stats in ILR with Velleman and complained about how boring and incomprehensible it was. My friend in PAM stats was going crazy. Maybe they just aren't good at statistics, but I like to think that I was just in a better class. That's my two cents.</p>
<p>what textbook is used in aem 210 and what is the exdam format? Do you learn actual statistics like probability or is it geared toward a different audience? Also for BioEE 278, did you take the writing component?</p>
<p>About AEM 210: it is only offered in the spring but i would def say it is worth it to wait until then and take it. I really wanted to take stats because I was a bio major and wanted to go into research and thought it would be useful, although I didn't need it to graduate. I was in CALS (just graduated) so I really needed more CALS credits, which is the main reason I went with AEM 210 over a different stats class. I had no idea what it would be like. BUT, the professor turned out to be amazing. Professor Van Es is bubbly, enthusiastic about the subject, and she cares immensely for her students. The sections and the homeworks are kind of long, but I actually enjoyed having a problem set every week instead of just memorizing information like in a lot of my biology classes. I didn't spend nearly as much time studying for the prelims as I did on my other classes because I made good use of my time in section and was able to pay attention in the lecture and take good notes since the professor moved at a decent pace. I got an A+ in the class (my first one) and I truly enjoyed myself.</p>
<p>About the textbook: I never bought it and only used a library copy like once or twice in order to do a homework problem assigned in it.</p>
<p>The exam format is some multiple choice, which can be tricky, but if you really pay attention in class, you will spot the tricks, and the rest are word problems, using equations and charts and stuff. </p>
<p>Although it is in the business major, the professor actually tries not to use all business related examples, because she knows that there are a variety of majors taking her class. There was a good month or so devoted to probability too. I also heard that all of the other stats classes were boring, but there were big curves in some of them, which made them "easy". </p>
<p>(Bioee278: I did not take the writing component, but I wish I had. I really dislike classes where all I do is memorize information. Although I am probably better at memorizing information than writing essays, I think I would have gotten much more out of the class if I had taken the writing component. I tend to do poorly in classes that I dislike.)</p>
<p>I took the math stats(MATH 161) with Prof. Hwang who was very good and really nice about going over concepts, but it may have been easier for me since I took AP Stats in high school so I kinda alreaady knew the material...if u want an easy course that does not get much into applications take PAM 210 a lot of people liked that.
But now Cornell is taking notice of the classes and sections people choose so they make classes harder. So, the experience one person had one semester may not be the same for you in the next.</p>
<p>Well the PAM 210 fall prof sucks. IS the spring any better? Also what topics are gone over in AEM 210 as compared to PAM 210?</p>
<p>Same concepts are covered in 210s, ILR, PAM, and AEM. The spring is not any better for PAM because couple of the professors re-teach it and they usually put very junior faculty on teaching stats.</p>
<p>Anyone have any insight as to how MATH 171 is setup? What concepts are being taught?</p>
<p>I took 171 last semester. 3 sections/week, weekly homework and "labs". 2 prelims and a final. It's not hard to do well. Topics are: probability, t-test, regressions, chi squares, ummm idk... probs the same as the other stats courses.</p>