<p>Just a question about Stern's network:
From what ive "heard", sternies's loyal to the school is the least and the alumni network of the school is not as strong as other top tiers college (ie Darthmouth, NU)
Is it true?
thanks guys</p>
<p>true. NYU is very segmented between the schools. If your interviewer went to Stern and you were in CAS and are going for the same job as a Georgetown grad, dont count on any kinship there. As far as sternies helping other sternies, it is there, although not overwhelmingly present. It is a competitive market, and I failed at even COMMUNICATING with Stern alumni on the west coast this summer. I guess it is the whole lack of community that we face going to nyu. Still though, I must have sent out 20 emails and countless LinkedIn messages, and not a single person replied. It sucks.</p>
<p>Wooah
Is it really that bad? I read countless of negative posts on CC painiting an unwelcoming picture of Stern and NYU as a whole… (lack of colllege life, friendship, campus, alumni network…)
somebody gives me some hope please</p>
<p>If you search the forum, there are lots of posts that refute the rumors about our campus, college life and friendship situations. People like, and even THRIVE at NYU. But yeah, some people don’t like our unconventional college life, and that’s okay.</p>
<p>I’m not in Stern, but the Steinhardt alumni seem to take care of their own; I got a cushy internship this past spring without too much work, because the interviewer was an MCC alum. MCC has a lot of ties to the media industry in NYC as a whole.</p>
<p>I don’t know they seem to set up a lot of alumni gatherings and presentations. I was able to land a few interviews through alumni that were friends of friends. It probably isn’t as strong as Ivy league alumni networks but it is there.</p>
<p>I read way too many posts on CC directly or indirectly attack Stern/NYU as a whole
college life, only stern stands out, ivies reject, weak alumni, no friendships, only good because of NYC connections(stern)…blah blah really let me down sometimes.:(</p>
<p>^Agreed, but don’t let it get you down. 99% of people posting on this site are not NYU students and are therefore uninformed about the realities of the school.</p>
<p>Is Stern a good feeder school to grad law school (like harvard…)
or after you graduate then you straight away go to work? cuz i have this impression that Stern is so much proffessional based that the academic side is somewhat not there for grad law school
CORRECT me if im wrong ppl. Thanks</p>
<p>NYU law is pretty high up there, but I have never heard that going to Stern would put you at a disadvantage for law school unless you expect to achieve a lower gpa by attending.</p>
<p>^True. Not to say it’s necessarily the case with Stern, but Business majors tend to score lower on the LSATs than liberal arts&sciences majors like Philosophy, Math, and Economics. To Law School adcoms, Stern or CAS makes little or no difference – it’s all about LSAT score and GPA.</p>
<p>NYYankee:</p>
<p>Random thoughts with no basis in fact from you …</p>
<p>certainly it’s not all about the gpa and the LSAT score since a high gpa from say penn state versus a lower gpa from columbia would not make the penn state grad a better candidate for law school</p>
<p>hsseniorlooking: Yeah… so I’m asserting “random thoughts” with no basis, huh? Check the link. If you think I’m lying, go to the CC law school forum and anyone will corroborate: </p>
<p>[Average</a> LSAT Scores for 29 Majors with over 400 Students Taking the Exam](<a href=“http://www.uic.edu/cba/cba-depts/economics/undergrad/table.htm]Average”>Business | University of Illinois Chicago)</p>
<p>Noooob: Unfortunately, that’s the way law school (and most forms of graduate school anyways) works. </p>
<p>Some schools may, at the margin, weigh work experience a bit more, but it’s really all about GPA and LSAT. </p>
<p>Equal GPA and LSAT scores just MIGHT give the Columbia undergrad the nod over a PSU student; but as might seem counter-intuitive to most CCers, a higher GPA at <em>gasp</em> a lower ranked school, is 9 out of 10 times preferred to a mediocre GPA at a higher ranked school. </p>
<p>Certainly, the difference between NYU Stern and CAS is null to a law school adcom.</p>
<p>nyyankees2012: then there is no point in going to a higher ranked school since prestige plays almost no factor in graduate admissions? o.o</p>
<p>other than a possible better education, perks, school life, and better connections. then yea there would be no point.</p>
<p>Sorry, but in my field (communications), at least at the PhD level, prestige plays SOME factor. In fact, in “Getting What You Came For”, a guide to MA and PhD level work, the author states that getting letters of recommendation from recognized and respected professors can only benefit you. (This applies to graduate level admissions EXCLUDING things like med, law and business. Law school admissions don’t correlate to med admissions, and so on.) </p>
<p>So to say that prestige plays NO factor in graduate admissions is an oversimplification.</p>
<p>So i guess if i wanna be pro in finance and have a good knowledge in law then my best bet is Stern then a law school? (besides Wharton)
Talking about GPA to graduate school, is there some kind of Stern curve? i dont know really? but there seems to be a huge grade deflation there?</p>
<p>last time i heard stern alumni are usually more understanding to other stern students (not from other divisions)… No tangible evidence though so I’m not sure…</p>
<p>I thought I might share some anecdotes that are Stern specific, since this is one questioning Stern alumni networks specifically.</p>
<p>Success stories:
A friend of mine was in STEBA (Stern Tisch Entertainment Business Association), and in one of their meetings they had an alumnus that worked for Playboy come and speak to everyone, as well as bringing with them a few people that work for playboy. They did a presentation, and later that year, my friend applied for a position with them (corporate lol). He ended up interviewing with the Stern alumnus and they shared their experiences, and he ended up getting the job with Playboy. Side note: the job is sick! And I benefited from it too, as he helps with the whole branding side and looking for sponsors for some of their parties, which also grants him access to the world famous playboy mansion parties, and has gotten me in to about 5 or 6 of them =D!</p>
<p>Another friend of mine interviewed for an internship with MTV, and got it. However, to get credit for it, it had to be paid, but MTV internships (and most entertainment based ones) didn’t pay, but was for school credit only. One of the higher ups was a stern graduate, and was familiar with the dilemma, so she was able to get my friend an hourly wage for his work. </p>
<p>Negative stories:
A friend of mine applied for a scholarship, and was interviewed by a stern alum. They shared their stories, but at the end of the day, he was not awarded the scholarship. It went to a Columbia student.</p>
<p>Another friend of mine interviewed for a retail position at the Quicksilver. It was a seasonal position for the winter season, and was from mid november to about February. The manager was a Stern junior, and interviewed my friend. He did not get the position.</p>
<p>My cousin, a Stern senior who just graduated, interviewed with a Stern alum for UBS during OCR, for an Investment Banking position. He was not called back. He got a job with an equally prestigious bank, so it isnt really an issue.</p>
<p>Finally, my dad, who got his undergraduate degree from Stern is now an MD for Goldman. He advised me against Stern when I was choosing colleges, and told me that when he was at HBS for his MBA, the Sternies there were few and far between. They never acknowledged one another. It was right around the shift when it went from the school of commerce to Stern, so it was a bit of a confusing time, but still, no real kinship. He has told me that when he would interview people, he would give no special consideration to people with an undergrad degree from Stern.</p>
<p>What does this all mean?</p>
<p>Well, think about it. The success stories come from companies like MTV and Playboy. The non success stories come from companies like UBS and GS. I don’t think this is by coincidence. I think there is a curve at play, and after a certain point in the quality and type of job, the Stern name can only take you so far. I guess it really does depend on the type of work you are seeking.</p>
<p>@woodendynomite: if your dad went to HBS and said there were few sternies, i think that is understandable, because most of sternies may not need a MBA degree,or enroll in other grad schools. And maybe the tiime of change from commerce to Stern is a “wierd” time that your dad does not feel the kinship present?
Overall, I think that the kinship to Stern varies from alumni to alumni, depending whether he was in love with the school from the first place?</p>