<p>So, I got into both the Stern School of Business at NYU and the Tepper School of Busines at CMU! Regardless of financial aide, if you were in my shoes which school would you choose and why?</p>
<p>Even as near to a year ago, I would've picked Stern.
Not anymore. Tepper has seen huge rises (50%) as its reputation with employers/recruiters skyrocket.</p>
<p>Here are some facts:
Wharton: </p>
<p>Avg Salary for 2005: 53,999 Range:26k-95k </p>
<p>AVg Salary for 2004: 52,267 Range:26k-85k </p>
<p>Stern: </p>
<p>2004 average: $52,110 </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyu.edu/careerdevelopment/survey/2004/placement_part2.php%5B/url%5D">http://www.nyu.edu/careerdevelopment/survey/2004/placement_part2.php</a> </p>
<p>Tepper 2005: </p>
<p>Max: 80k </p>
<p>Min: 40k </p>
<p>Median: 55,000 </p>
<p>Mean: 53,449 </p>
<p><a href="http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/career/employ/salary/ba.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.studentaffairs.cmu.edu/career/employ/salary/ba.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Ross: </p>
<p>2005 Median: 50,000 </p>
<p>2005 Mean: 50,175 </p>
<p>Range: 12,000-77,000 </p>
<p>If you like the city though, I'd still pick Stern. However I believe CMU offers the REAL college experience (not having to fight past bums and homeless ppl on the way to classes). The traditional campus with the green fields (and the nearby college city) is just about perfect for me.</p>
<p><em>shrugs</em> The increase in apps was due to it being squeezed up to 5th place on the US News rankings, making it much more visible. In terms of reputation with recruiters/employers, it hasn't really changed THAT much.</p>
<p>Explain the salaries and prestigious companies then?
Employers/recruiters have always coveted the CMU name. Please visit our career center or even ask graduating seniors for more information.</p>
<p>Do you want to be totally emerged in a huge city or do you want a residential area with a campus in a great city? Go visit and decide which feels better for you.</p>
<p>^ Agreed. I have always loved the traditional college campus with the green scenery but also having a great college city just down the block (along with other schools).</p>
<p>What I am saying is to pick your school based on ENVIRONMENT and not on job opps because I think I've proven with facts that Tepper is just as prestigious (in employer's eyes) and as heavily recruited as the other top business schools out there.</p>
<p>Tepper is much smaller. They only matriculated 84 students versus Stern's 500 or so</p>
<p>Oh yea, did you get into the Stern Scholars Program? I was also considering Tepper vs. Stern but the Scholars Program + 10k in scholarship have just about sealed the deal for me.</p>
<p>Make your decision after you've visited both schools. Ranking-wise, they're close enough that you should make your decision on which one you simply like more on a basis of non-academic things.</p>
<p>"Tepper is much smaller. They only matriculated 84 students versus Stern's 500 or so"</p>
<p>Is this supposed to be a comeback or just a random fact? Size is irrelevant. Penn State's Smeal is much bigger than Wharton, for example.</p>
<p>Dylin88, I did not get into the Stern Scholars program. Truthfully, I was lucky to get into these two great business school. I am going to Pittsburth tommorow. If I like the campus I will probably go to Tepper. I didn't like NYU very much.</p>
<p>I read an article in the Wall Street Journal about a week ago - they just ranked Tepper as the number 2 business school in the country. And Tepper has very successful kids too. My friend's sister (at Tepper) is a sophomore, and was recruited by Apple to go out to California (she lives in NJ) to work for their marketting department over the summer. They're going to pay for everything because they want her so badly. Also, I've heard a lot of bad things about Stern. Apparently the lack-of-campus isn't particularly thrilling.</p>
<p>^ Agreed. You have all your life to be in the city. Spend your college year with college kids in a college city :)</p>
<p>haha, that 84 thing was just a random fact that people might want to take into account. I mean, objectively, it can be good OR bad. On one hand, u have less competition. 84 Tepper kids vying for the internship spots. On the other hand....u also have less companionship. Only 84 kids in the school vs. 500. </p>
<p>Tepper is great because it feels like an actual COLLEGE. You actually have grass...and breathing space....and don't hafta walk past 10 bums on ur way to class. It's basically the traditional college experience. I imagine it'd be great to know ppl from the different colleges at Carnegie and double majoring sounds awesome there. </p>
<p>NYU is just....different. During the reception, the Dean said "In this room, there are probably many of you who do NOT belong at NYU." and then proceeded to list what makes NYU unique. That is really the word to describe NYU with - unique. You will either love it and flourish in the city...or be wishing you were somewhere else. However, there is one thing that NYU has an advantage over. The said it numerous times during the presentation. LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION. They're within walking distance to wall street. That helps with future jobs/internships. Period. End of discussion.</p>
<p>Now...Finance/International Business - Stern wins. Quantitative Analysis - Tepper wins. That is reasonable. After all, Stern is located in NYC (where better for international business?) and prides itself mostly on it's finance. Tepper is a part of CMU, which is in general, very science/engineering based.</p>
<p>I'm not saying one is definitely better than the other. I'm still somewhat trying to make that decision myself.</p>
<p>"u also have less companionship."</p>
<p>Right.. cause all Tepper kids are enclosed off from the rest of the city and school. They put us in cages and lock us up for the night when we are not in class. Gee whiz I wish there was something like a 2+ million city down the block or 10 colleges that us Tepper kids could be near to.</p>
<p>All in all, I mostly agree with your post.:) I would just suggest more people look at STATISTICS and DATA rather than opinion. Location does not matter as much as ppl think as from the link you can see we send a vast majority to NYC.</p>
<p>before you consider the statistics, take into account that Stern take 400-500 students each year while Tepper enrolls 84. The average salary is only couple hundred dollars more. a few good offers can have a major impact on Teppers overall data. Don't base your choice on salary as you know if you took Statistics, average(mean) is not always the best method of looking at data. Make you decision based on where you fit in best. for me, I am going to Stern because it offers a diverse package(socially, academically....) and I feel that I fit into the environment pretty well(I live 25 mins away). On a side note, NYC is much better than Pittsburg. many of my friends that have attended or are attending say there is a certain degree of gloominess associated with going to school in CMU. NYC on the other hand comparatively offers so much more, I think I can handle a few bums on my way to class. CMU is also very expensive, don't know why. NYC i understand, but Pittsburg i don't. </p>
<p>BOTH SCHOOLS ARE GREAT, it is up to you to efficiently employ the great resources these two schools have to offer and achieve your goals.</p>
<p>alreadyaccepted, what I meant by a lack of companionship is that Stern students have 500 other students who they can rely on, probably many many of whom are majoring in the same thing. If you have problems with anything or want advice or something, you have 500 other people you can go to. Granted, a class of 84 is probably sufficient for getting advice or help, but it's not the same thing as having 500 peers. True, there are the other colleges, but I meant companionship in a more academic sense, not socially.</p>
<p>OH YEA!! CMU is rising up the ranks of most expensive schools in the country now and that's just annoying. NYU's cost can be blamed due to it's New York City location. </p>
<p>By the way, one of my friends who graduated last year and went to SCS at CMU came back last week to visit teachers and one thing he commented on was the girls, who he said weren't anything to write home about. lol, but he DID say that U of Pittsburg is nearby and that there are plenty of girls there. yep...just an fyi...</p>
<p>Great.. now I gotta deal with NYU kids. You don't see me going over to NYU to argue with you guys :) But hey Dylin.. can you at least ATTEND NYU FIRST before you start comparing it to another university which you HAVEN'T ATTENDED?</p>
<p>Notice how I've never generalized NYU or belittled it in any way. I have only offered stats such as avg salaries and have described the two campuses. But since you started the generalizations first, I guess I can give some of my own.</p>
<p>Relying on Stern students? That's laughable as Stern students are known to be the most competitive and toolish. </p>
<p>NYU's size if anything makes it so there is LESS support as faculty are not as helpful nor open. </p>
<p>What is more annoying is the unhidden costs of attending NYU and being in the city. There are many restaurants and museums and clubs here in Pittsburgh that offer half off or free if you are a student. </p>
<p>Omg not the girls! Upitt is just nearby and so is the nation's 2nd largest college city. So yes I agree with that statement.</p>
<p>FYI: Last year's Econ avg salary was 55k. Stern's was 50k. The "statistic" seems pretty consistent to me considering Stern's class is always around 500 or so.</p>
<p>the restaurants and museums in Pittsburg are in no comparision of those in NYC, they have to allow people in for free or they would not have any visitors.</p>