<p>Oklahoma City’s award was even better - they made a big deal about the scholarship that they awarded our D. They even planted an article in our local paper about how they were so happy to accept her that they gave her a scholarship. It was the only college to do this, and it was very embarrassing for her, I might add. Their big award? $2,000 a year off of $49,000. Thanks guys, but I’d rather have the leg lamp.</p>
<p>Now THAT would have been a major award!</p>
<p>If you are applying to a school with rolling admissions, you may want to consider auditioning there early in the process. They have more spots available early in the process. And they have more scholarship money early in the process. Your chances for getting in and getting good scholarship $ are better early on IF you are ready to audition.</p>
<p>How do you know if a school has rolling admissions?</p>
<p>@MTmom2015 - you will need to check with each school as their processes are continually being updated. When my D auditioned 2 years ago, some schools that had rolling admissions included OCU, Coastal Carolina, Rider and Ohio Northern.</p>
<p>Hey Mike, At First I thought you meant “leg cramp”! 
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<p>Bumping
As you receive a 2014-15 Financial Aid Award Letter please cut and paste this section to your reply box and add your school based on costs as shown below.</p>
<p>As you add a new school please update the count to maintain the integrity of the list.</p>
<p>Updating Northern Colorado</p>
<p>CURRENT COUNT = 39</p>
<p>(dc) = direct costs (tuition, room & board only)
(tc) = total costs (direct costs plus indirect costs as listed in the award letter)
(oos) = out of state (if applicable)
(is) = in state (if applicable)</p>
<p>Cost (by lowest cost… for state schools, by IS cost)…
University of Northern Colorado $16,068 (dc/is) $27,612 (dc/oos)
Florida State 17,487 (dc/is); 32,480 (dc/oos)
JMU 17,695 (dc/is) 32,294 (dc/oos)
Texas State University 18,250 (dc); 21,260 (tc)
Wright State (Ohio) 19,400 (dc/is); 27,400 (dc/oos)
Indiana 23,000 (dc/ is estimate); 44,234 (dc/ oos)
University of Utah $23,554 (tc) in-state; $38,862 (tc) OOS, but residency acquired after 1 year
Cal State Fullerton 24,320 (tc)
Coastal Carolina University 18,040 (dc/is); 31,310 (dc/oos); 23,109 (tc/is); 36,379 (tc/oos)
Viterbo 31,730 (dc)
Temple 31,870 (tc)
Central Michigan 32,214 (dc)
Montclair 35,365 (dc/ oos)
Nebraska Wesleyan 36,570 (dc)
Ohio Northern 36,960 (dc)
CCM (U of Cincinnati) 37,688 (dc) (oos)*estimate - 2014/15 figures not yet released
Royal Conservatoire of Scotland: $24,196 tuition + $14,970 recommended COL = $39,166 (dc) ^
Webster 39,404 (dc)
Baldwin Wallace 40,720 (dc)
Elon 41,914 (dc) 45,414 (tc)
Marymount Manhattan 42,636 (dc)
Otterbein University 42,876 (dc)
Shenandoah 43,066 (dc)
Point Park 43,120 (dc), 44,430 (tc)
Long Island University 45,000 (dc)
Drake 46,385 (dc)
Baylor University 46,642 (tc)
Hartt (University of Hartford) 46,962 (dc)
Oklahoma City University. 49,256 (tc)
Rider 50,575
Wagner 52,880 (tc)
Roosevelt CCPA 53,212 (tc)
Pace University 56,042 (dc)
Ithaca 57,316 (tc)
Emerson 57,376 (tc)
Carnegie Mellon. 61,422 (dc)
Northwestern University… 61,640 (dc)
NYU-Tisch 70,606 (tc)</p>
<p>Alphabetical…
Baldwin Wallace 40,720 (dc)
Baylor University 46,642 (tc)
Cal State Fullerton 24,320 (tc)
Carnegie Mellon. 61,422 (dc)
Central Michigan 32,214 (dc)
CCM (U of Cincinnati) 37688 (dc) (oos)*estimate - 2014/15 figures not yet released
Coastal Carolina University 18,040 (dc/is); 31,310 (dc/oos); 23,109 (tc/is); 36,379 (tc/oos)
Drake 46,385 (dc)
Elon 41,914 (dc) 45,414 (tc)
Emerson 57,376 (tc)
Florida State 17,487 (dc) 32,480 (dc/oos)
Indiana 23,000 (dc/ is estimate); 44,234 (dc/ oos)
Ithaca 57,316 (tc)
JMU 17,695 (dc/is) 32,294 (dc/oos)
Long Island University 45,000 (dc)
Marymount Manhattan 42,636 (dc)
Montclair 35,365 (dc/ oos)
Nebraska Wesleyan 36,570 (dc)
NYU-Tisch 70,606 (tc)
Northwestern University… 61,640 (dc)
Ohio Northern 36,960 (dc)
Oklahoma City University 49,256 (tc)
Otterbein University 42,876 (dc)
Pace University 56,042 (dc)
Point Park 43,120 (dc), 44,430 (tc)
Rider 50,575
Roosevelt CCPA 53,212 (tc)
Royal Conservatoire of Scotland: $24,196 tuition + $14,970 recommended COL = $39,166 (dc) ^
Shenandoah 43,066 (dc)
Temple 31,870 (tc)
Texas State University 18,250 (dc/is); 21,260 (tc/is)
Hartt (University of Hartford) 46,962 (dc)
University of Northern Colorado $16,068 (dc/is) $27,612 (dc/oos)
University of Utah 23,554 (tc); $38,862 (tc) OOS, but residency acquired after 1 year
Viterbo 31,730 (dc)
Wagner 52,880 (tc)
Webster 39,404 (dc)
Wright State (Ohio) 19,400 (dc/is); 27,400 (dc/oos)</p>
<p>*CCU, TSU, WSU, JMU (IS), UNC and FSU (OOS), Elon figures are from school websites; hopefully someone with a FA award letter will update them
^ RCS: BA program is only 3 years. Figure does not include international travel costs.</p>
<p>As you receive a 2014-15 Financial Aid Award Letter please cut and paste this section to your reply box and add your school based on costs as shown below.</p>
<p>As you add a new school please update the count to maintain the integrity of the list.</p>
<p>Updating NYU Steinhardt</p>
<p>CURRENT COUNT = 40</p>
<p>(dc) = direct costs (tuition, room & board only)
(tc) = total costs (direct costs plus indirect costs as listed in the award letter)
(oos) = out of state (if applicable)
(is) = in state (if applicable)</p>
<p>Cost (by lowest cost… for state schools, by IS cost)…
University of Northern Colorado $16,068 (dc/is) $27,612 (dc/oos)
Florida State 17,487 (dc/is); 32,480 (dc/oos)
JMU 17,695 (dc/is) 32,294 (dc/oos)
Texas State University 18,250 (dc); 21,260 (tc)
Wright State (Ohio) 19,400 (dc/is); 27,400 (dc/oos)
Indiana 23,000 (dc/ is estimate); 44,234 (dc/ oos)
University of Utah $23,554 (tc) in-state; $38,862 (tc) OOS, but residency acquired after 1 year
Cal State Fullerton 24,320 (tc)
Coastal Carolina University 18,040 (dc/is); 31,310 (dc/oos); 23,109 (tc/is); 36,379 (tc/oos)
Viterbo 31,730 (dc)
Temple 31,870 (tc)
Central Michigan 32,214 (dc)
Montclair 35,365 (dc/ oos)
Nebraska Wesleyan 36,570 (dc)
Ohio Northern 36,960 (dc)
CCM (U of Cincinnati) 37,688 (dc) (oos)*estimate - 2014/15 figures not yet released
Royal Conservatoire of Scotland: $24,196 tuition + $14,970 recommended COL = $39,166 (dc) ^
Webster 39,404 (dc)
Baldwin Wallace 40,720 (dc)
Elon 41,914 (dc) 45,414 (tc)
Marymount Manhattan 42,636 (dc)
Otterbein University 42,876 (dc)
Shenandoah 43,066 (dc)
Point Park 43,120 (dc), 44,430 (tc)
Long Island University 45,000 (dc)
Drake 46,385 (dc)
Baylor University 46,642 (tc)
Hartt (University of Hartford) 46,962 (dc)
Oklahoma City University. 49,256 (tc)
Rider 50,575
Wagner 52,880 (tc)
Roosevelt CCPA 53,212 (tc)
Pace University 56,042 (dc)
Ithaca 57,316 (tc)
Emerson 57,376 (tc)
Carnegie Mellon. 61,422 (dc)
Northwestern University… 61,640 (dc)
NYU-STeinhardt 66,046 (tc)
NYU-Tisch 70,606 (tc)</p>
<p>Alphabetical…
Baldwin Wallace 40,720 (dc)
Baylor University 46,642 (tc)
Cal State Fullerton 24,320 (tc)
Carnegie Mellon. 61,422 (dc)
Central Michigan 32,214 (dc)
CCM (U of Cincinnati) 37688 (dc) (oos)*estimate - 2014/15 figures not yet released
Coastal Carolina University 18,040 (dc/is); 31,310 (dc/oos); 23,109 (tc/is); 36,379 (tc/oos)
Drake 46,385 (dc)
Elon 41,914 (dc) 45,414 (tc)
Emerson 57,376 (tc)
Florida State 17,487 (dc) 32,480 (dc/oos)
Indiana 23,000 (dc/ is estimate); 44,234 (dc/ oos)
Ithaca 57,316 (tc)
JMU 17,695 (dc/is) 32,294 (dc/oos)
Long Island University 45,000 (dc)
Marymount Manhattan 42,636 (dc)
Montclair 35,365 (dc/ oos)
Nebraska Wesleyan 36,570 (dc)
NYU_Steinhardt 66,046
NYU-Tisch 70,606 (tc)
Northwestern University… 61,640 (dc)
Ohio Northern 36,960 (dc)
Oklahoma City University 49,256 (tc)
Otterbein University 42,876 (dc)
Pace University 56,042 (dc)
Point Park 43,120 (dc), 44,430 (tc)
Rider 50,575
Roosevelt CCPA 53,212 (tc)
Royal Conservatoire of Scotland: $24,196 tuition + $14,970 recommended COL = $39,166 (dc) ^
Shenandoah 43,066 (dc)
Temple 31,870 (tc)
Texas State University 18,250 (dc/is); 21,260 (tc/is)
Hartt (University of Hartford) 46,962 (dc)
University of Northern Colorado $16,068 (dc/is) $27,612 (dc/oos)
University of Utah 23,554 (tc); $38,862 (tc) OOS, but residency acquired after 1 year
Viterbo 31,730 (dc)
Wagner 52,880 (tc)
Webster 39,404 (dc)
Wright State (Ohio) 19,400 (dc/is); 27,400 (dc/oos)</p>
<p>*CCU, TSU, WSU, JMU (IS), UNC and FSU (OOS), Elon figures are from school websites; hopefully someone with a FA award letter will update them
^ RCS: BA program is only 3 years. Figure does not include international travel costs.</p>
<p>University at Buffalo (SUNY)
COA: In-state: $20,283, Out-of-state: $32,223
Tuition and Fee: In-state: $8,426, Out-of-state: $20,366
Students qualifying for honors and in MT or other performing arts often get $3500 merit money per year to offset All of the kid in MT got the award my son’s year. Don’t know current rules for it. All of my kids who applied there got the $2500 Honors College grant though it is not guaranteed, and those who are in PA get the additonal $1K to that. </p>
<p>Anyone have U of Mich numbers?</p>
<p>The website lists out of state cost of attendance for 2014-2015 at Michigan as $55,404. That includes room and board, books, fees and an estimate for personal/miscellaneous expenses in addition to tuition.</p>
<p>I find the total costs very misleading and useless. The amounts for things like transportation, personal expenses, books, etc. are very individualized and students will have vastly different amounts for these. We should not even use these numbers when comparing schools. For example, Texas State uses the exact same amount in transportation for residents as they do for non residents. It is obvious to me that a kid from Seattle or Maine will be spending a lot more on transportation than a kid from Austin or Houston. Also, the numbers being used for books and supplies are the same numbers they use for history, accounting, pharmacy, and other majors. They also just throw out numbers for how much kids will be spending on personal expenses. And, each university uses different amounts for these categories, even though they are totally just estimates. I think it makes sense to compare direct costs like tuition or even room and board, but not travel and spending money.</p>
<p>That is why we have a list with both direct costs and total costs to help with that comparison. But the expenses @weski2 mentions are all costs that need to be considered when understanding the total cost of any school. But use common sense as to how they will effect your costs. They will vary from family to family and school to school. But you won’t truly know the costs for attending a school until you get your actual financial letter from schools to which you are accepted. And then you will need to determine things like transportation costs, books, etc… Books may also include other costs you may not have accounted for. do you have an accompanist fee? music theory software? Specific,dance shoes required? keyboard? Sheet music purchases? there are lots of miscellaneous expenses in many MT programs. Those will vary from school to school. But there are many posts on CC about families who underestimated the total cost of attendance because they had not factored in transportation, books or other expenses. So at some point in your process, definitely make sure you account for,those costs. </p>
<p>I find the list still very useful because I can look at the direct costs and know that my additional costs will be relatively the same at many schools. Transport from West Coast to anywhere on the East Coast, for example.</p>
<p>You know if I were you all, I’d just concentrate on tuition plus room and board costs when it comes to trying to do the math between one school vs. the next. After that there will certainly be fees blah blah blah. They won’t prove to be materially different from one school to the next in a way that will make you say, “I can afford THIS school and not THAT school.” The real money is in tuition, room and board.</p>
<p>This is not the same thing as the exercise of trying to figure out how much money you need to set aside for college in your budget planning. As a strawman, I’d offer add up tuition, room and board… then throw in a random $2000 for fees and other for whatever school you are talking about. (I am rounding up but fairly sure that number will cover most schools.) After that, you get into the particulars of your personal situation: Where do you live relative to the school? Are you anti-sketchy bargain bus or ok with it? Do you really feel like you must fly your kid home for 4 days for Thanksgiving or are you willing to say… find a friend to go home with? Used books or new? Jazz pants from Costco or Lululemon AND… all the other stuff that really isn’t a function of what school you pick more than it is a function of how you roll. How you roll will be the same no matter what the school. </p>
<p>I agree with @halflokum. The list is useful only if comparing direct costs (tuition, room and board), not for comparing the total costs, since as I mentioned above that is too individualized to each kid.</p>
<p>The list is a great jumping off point, and I would have referred to it last year if it had existed. It is information provided by the school, and I understand total cost is a ballpark figure. My son happens to be in Maine, so we knew to factor transportation into the equation, and he’s not coming home for Thanksgiving .</p>
<p>The list is only meant to help put costs for each school in perspective. Each student 's actual costs will vary greatly from this list. You will get a financial award letter after acceptance that will outline your personal financial responsibility for tuition, fees, room and board. Some may even contribute to your books and miscellaneous expenses. So don’t get too bogged down with this list and these figures. It is only meant to help understand the basic costs for each school. </p>
<p>When comparing schools’ costs, however, it’s best to compare apples to apples. I prefer just using tuition, room and board, for that reason.</p>
<p>Does anyone have the Direct costs for NYU?</p>