<p>And if Bolandgoo doesn’t have a 4.0 he manned up and took the GPA hit. not to pad his GPA with a W.</p>
<p>@WhiteTShirt</p>
<p>Na, didn’t hurt my feelings one bit. But again, why make an argument you can’t support with evidence? It isn’t the best way of persuading people who oppose your views.</p>
<p>And dude, you’re like 4 years older than me. Calling me a young man is a little strange.</p>
<p>OP your ■■■■■■■■. When a teacher is copying quotes of wikipedia and making us write papers for his own personal usage the class is no longer professional. An unprofessional teacher is a teacher that has failed to live up to his end of the contract. I’m paying money for the class and I expect a legitimate education. When the semester starts up I’m going to see if I can file a formal complaint or something to get the W removed from my transcript.</p>
<p>@bomerr</p>
<p>There’s a process to erase Ws off your transcript, bomerr? I didn’t know CCs did that.</p>
<p>@Cayton. Like I said if the consequences were greater for the amount of W’s you would not of withdrawn from the course. Like I said you had no real reason for withdrawing. Your GPA is padded for that reason.</p>
<p>Unfortunately they don’t realize that all of those Ws and failing grades will show up in grad school, and there’s absolutely nothing they can do about it… Sure they average all of their GPAs but those grades will stay (even if you retake the class or drop it with a W), and grad school is even more competitive…</p>
<p>W’s can’t be removed. So your stuck with it. I’m pretty sure you used RMP to pick that teacher also.</p>
<p>@bomerr I did not insult by calling you ■■■■■■■■. I would kindly appreciate it if you kept it civil and leave out the name calling. It’s really unneeded</p>
<p>Who knows. There are two sets of rules. The stuff on the books and the stuff people will do. Their may not be a formal way to remove the W but if I file a formal complaint then maybe something will happen. Like I said the teacher was incompetent so I have a legitimate professional grievance. Plus It’s not like I have anything to loose.</p>
<p>100% agree that there should be a limit on W’s. While we’re at it, let’s fix the system that allows people who get D’s and F’s to retake them for better grades but not C’s. I personally don’t understand the logic behind this. It seems like majority of people who retake those classes are able to get at least a B, therefore D/F > C. I’m not saying everyone who retakes them are able to improve and most importantly, more time is being spent to retake those classes, but it’s still fricken stupid how it’s currently set up.</p>
<p>@WhiteTshirt</p>
<p>There is some merit to your argument in regards to padded GPAs, I will admit that. That’s one of the reasons I don’t go around bragging about my 3.88 GPA. It’s nothing special and I know why I have it.</p>
<p>But you still haven’t answered my question about why you’re making an argument you can’t support. Who are these qualified applicants being turned down and who are those not being turned down but have “excessive Ws”? The admissions officers decide who is and who is not qualified. Again, I trust their judgment over yours. Why should I change my mind?</p>
<p>@Refreshe18 Amen brother. people are allowed to many due overs. When you confront them about it they get offended and call you names and ask you to provide data to prove a point that does not need to be proved. Like I said if the policies were stricter the applicant poole would be smaller and more qualified. similar to what prop 209 did. Highschoolers don’t get second chances by the way.</p>
<p>@Cayton what happens if your declined to LA your dream school and you later find out that someone was admitted with 10 W’s over you. Would you be upset? </p>
<p>The Policy on W’s should be tightened. That’s all I’m saying. I guarantee most students agree with me on this. Especially those freshman admitted from high school. who don’t get a second chance.</p>
<p>at my ccc Staff and professors make is seem likes its better to get a C than a W. Actually at most ccc that my friends attend they are told the same thing by staff and professors. They pretty much say that its better to get a C because Ws look horrible and universities won’t accept us, and even one will harm our chances. </p>
<p>Therefore I was always too scared to get any until last spring. I dropped my non transferable math about 2 days before the deadline because I was failing. This fall I dropped the same non transferable math because I had a horrible teacher and again was failing. Im really bad at math… I ended up signing up for the same class at another ccc as an 8 week course. But in order to do so I had to drop another class(history) to take it since the classes were at the same time. I really didn’t want to but figured I had to, if I wanted to transfer this year. In the end the 8 week math class got cancelled. So in reality i dropped the history class for nothing, and now I have 3 total Ws (2 for the same class, which is non transferable). Now Im taking the math class during winter, and I’m hoping to get into any UC, scared that the Ws in math will kill my chances. </p>
<p>I wish I didn’t have any but what can I do, I never dropped on purpose though, each one was or felt like I and to.</p>
<p>There is a policy at my CC that teachers need to give 70% of the students 70% of better in the class. Thus teachers have an incentive not to give out Ds, Fs or Ws.</p>
<p>@WhiteTshirt</p>
<p>I wouldn’t be upset at all. I’m consistent in saying that I trust the admissions officers’ judgment in who is and who is not qualified. If they think someone with 10 Ws is more qualified than I am and they admit him/her over me, then so be it.</p>
<p>Besides, those freshman do get a second chance, through CCs. </p>
<p>I don’t necessarily oppose increased restrictions on the number of Ws allowed, but I don’t really see the point. It’d make more sense if these restrictions were placed on classes for one’s major, since that’s what you’d be studying when you transfer for the most part.</p>
<p>@Cayton I can respect that. I think you will get in. You have a good shot and you articulate your thoughts really well.</p>
<p>@WhiteTshirt</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>And you really need to be good at articulating your thoughts in order to succeed in philosophy. Philosophy professors are anal about being absolutely clear about what you’re saying, lol. Philosophy’s my major. ;)</p>
<p>I wish you luck in whatever UC you’re trying to transfer to. Where do you want to go?</p>
<p>I did not apply to any UC’s, I have a 3.88 GPA with zero drops. I thought I could afford to go to a UC. I applied for admission to CSUF for the fall and I already got admitted. I kinda wish I applied to a UC. I also got a full ride to CSUF. It was not until the deadline passed that I realized I could of qualified for the B&G program as well as several grants from a UC. I blame poor counseling for this. I hate the counselors at my CC. They’re horrible.</p>
<p>I kinda wish I knew about this resource I would of came on here and researched. The member here seem to know much more than the counselors at my CC. I honestly wonder how they got their positions.</p>
<p>A full ride to CSUF is pretty cool, but it is unfortunate that your counselors didn’t tell you about the B and G program.</p>
<p>You could always apply next year. Your GPA is excellent and qualifies you for all of the UCs.</p>
<p>I know but I’m too old to wait around for another year. I should of had my undergrad degree by now. I hope CSUF opens doors for me. Did you apply to any CSU’s?</p>
<p>@WhiteTshirt</p>
<p>No because I haven’t done my speech class and I’ve heard that that class is very important if you want to transfer. I don’t have plans to do a speech class in the spring because I’m taking some GE requirements and a couple more philosophy classes in order to prepare to transfer to whichever UC I get accepted to, preferably UCLA. Philosophy at the upper division is no joke. :(</p>
<p>I’d almost certainly get rejected by the CSUs. At least, that’s what I’ve read. But If I did apply, I would’ve applied to CSUN and CSULA.</p>