Stop the Excessive W's

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<p>@CSB111</p>

<p>I’ve believed for a while now that classes in fields that people traditionally struggle in(English, math, biology, chemistry, STEM in general, those kinds of subjects) should add everyone who crashes the class since many people who enroll in those kinds of classes withdraw.</p>

<p>I remember when I went to my first class meeting in introductory biology. The lecture hall was packed with students and many of them were trying to get in to the class, but to no avail. The instructor would only add a few people. After the 2nd and 3rd exams were given, about 30% or so of the class dropped. That lecture hall looked empty the class meeting after we received our exam results. It really saddened me to know that quite a few of those people trying to get added to that class probably could’ve gotten a C or better, but weren’t allowed to enroll while many of the people already enrolled in the class got crappy grades because they weren’t trying.</p>

<p>I actually knew a guy who was enrolled in the class, essentially taking up a seat, who wasn’t taking the class seriously. He’d complain that the professor was being unfair, called her a b**** because he wasn’t passing the class with a C or better…the guy was on his laptop looking up Yahoo sports and other trivial BS throughout her lectures and he had the audacity to blame the professor for his academic failure. He even told me that he was retaking the class because he got a D for the first time. The dude certainly didn’t have his s*** together and he paid the price for it. He dropped the class halfway through the semester. Unsurprisingly, he was a business major, and we all know the stereotypes associated with business majors…they don’t work nearly as hard as STEM or humanities majors. lol</p>

<p>Sorry to rant again, but yeah, I certainly know that there are quite a few people like that at CCs making life harder for other people who are trying to succeed.</p>

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<p>CSB111 - You lose priority registration (unless you are a vet or Foster youth because of state law) if you hit 90 attempted units at my CCC not 90 completed, but you can appeal it.</p>

<p>But definitely a lot of people who want to take classes with the highly rated professors are unable to due to other students withdrawing mid semester who had priority registration.</p>

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<p>@ucastell</p>

<p>The premise of your argument revolves around GS. </p>

<p>I think everyone can agree that failing grades is detrimental to going to GS. This is nothing new and seems rather obvious. </p>

<p>So, are you saying that people shouldn’t be withdrawing from courses because it might hurt their hypothetical chances at attending GS? I fail to see what this has to do with the legitimacy of allowing withdrawing at the UG level as a whole. If you want to attend medical school that’s awesome. Don’t grip about others that utilize a perfectly acceptable resource provided to everyone. </p>

<p>I’m sure it’s annoying for some posters on here that others W from classes, but, why in the heck would the JC’s not allow it? It brings in more money. Plain and simple. There’s no point in arguing against it or ranting about it.</p>

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<p>Whoops, I meant *gripe</p>

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<p>The main issue with excessive late-drops (which W signifies) is that the space in the class is wasted – i.e. it is too late for anyone else to add the class if someone drops late enough to get a W.</p>

<p>What the CCs should do put students with a previous W in the class at lower registration priority for the class compared to those taking it for the first time.</p>