<p>Well I don’t feel comfortable having separate treatment in college admissions (if that’s the case) just as I wouldn’t feel comfortable having separate facilities. If asians are given separate treatment in the name of “diversity,” then it is somewhat comparable. But that wasn’t my point at all. Saying “life isn’t fair; deal with it” to arguable injustices is just absurd.</p>
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<p>What elitist attitude? Just wondering. My parents only want me to have a good stable job since they themselves have struggled financially. I don’t think the focus on “enginerering, medicine, and law” is elitist so much as it is financially reasonable. Sure you can find stable good paying jobs elsewhere, but those are the “big” ones so to speak.</p>
<p>I agree, it is somewhat unfair, but whining won’t help anything. There is a huge difference between civil rights and the college admissions process. Most (if not all?) public state schools favor in state applicants over OOS applicants. I plan on applying to UMich, UVA, and UNC. I am at a huge, HUGE disadvantage for these schools because I live in CT. I don’t argue that it’s unfair that I live in a certain state, I suck it up and move forward. Colleges can do whatever they want with applicants, it’s never fair for everyone and it likely never will be.</p>
<p>WHO CARES. Suck it up. I’m Asian too, and I applied for Penn ED with a 3.75 GPA. The only way you will have no chance of being admitted to a school is if you don’t apply</p>
<p>If you got a 2380, shoot for the ****ing moon because, worst case scenario, you’ll land on a star. Forget about how African Americans have a racial advantage, this is your life and if you think it’ll be decided or heavily affected by your undergraduate institution, which is only four years of your life, then you’ve got lots and lots of eye-opening to do. You don’t get Harvard? Fine. You’ll still probably get in Duke or some jawn like that.</p>
<p>Okay then we’re on the same level. I don’t think your in-state/OOS example makes sense (doesn’t really work as an analogy…), but that’s an irrelevant concern if we agree that it’s unfair. </p>
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<p>I don’t disagree with the philosophy that we should “trudge forward” in spite of difficulties, but that doesn’t mean we should ignore unfair treatment. Right…? If I can’t get into the school I want cause I was born a certain way, I don’t think “Fine, I got into x college (that is less desirable) and it’s all okay” is the right way to go.</p>
<p>And again, I posted this in earlier pages but I didn’t mean for this to be a “whine” or “AA” thread lol. I just felt like posting a self-reflective stream of conciousness whatever since I’m going through the application process now. But if you want to discuss it sure, I’m all for it especially since I really don’t want to do physics hw lol.</p>
<p>If HYPSM are really your most desirable schools, then you should have done more research on the non-Ivies, especially since you seem like top 15 material. JHU, WUSTL, Duke, Chicago, Notre Dame schools like these aren’t Ivies but they’re nationally/internationally revered, they’ve got great programs, etc. You’re probably not applying to some/most of these schools but my point is that you’d be surprised how much you’d love some of them (in more ways than pure academics) if you give them a chance.</p>
<p>But either way. You’ll love Penn if you get in there. I’ve been so familiar with that university since I was, like, six through many ways - it’s impossible to hate if you like cities.</p>
<p>Pluto I know this from personal experience. My family is African and a majority of my aunts and uncles are in one of those professions. I use to hate visiting family because the first question they ask (after my age) is what I wanted to be. For a long time I had no idea, and the passion I have now is neither of those things. My dad recently discouraged me from applying to Georgetown and Northwestern because he said it wouldn’t male me stand out in any way. It’s aggravating and I’ll make sure I don’t do it.</p>