<p>Have you considered UT Business Honors? It is, however, extremely hard to get in so I would put you as a reach for BHP- it doesn't hurt to apply though.</p>
<p>Miami does have a Finance program and it is one of the most popular majors. Miami ranks highest (from U.S. News) in Accounting- which is practically the same as a Finance major (a few classes different). But ultimately, employers state that your major isn't really that important, but rather the business degree as a whole- you can still do anything.</p>
<p>I can assure you that Miami is one of the fastest rising Business programs in the nation (esp. when the new facility is finished- your sophomore year-just when you start taking a lot of classes in business). As business honors student I have been able to get to know the Dean of the Business school himself (he taught a small class with us), and know the enthusiasm he has for the program...</p>
<p>Thought you might also be interested that Miami has its own European Branch Campus in Luxembourg (in the heart of Europe)- and if you did honors you could go for a summer and not pay tuition. Luxembourg is between France and Germany and enables you to travel all throughout Europe. MU has one of the highest percentages of students studying abroad in the nation. </p>
<p>Additionally, the business school is establishing its own system of studying abroad for China. If you are interested...
<a href="http://www.sba.muohio.edu/home/CurrentStudents/China/interest.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.sba.muohio.edu/home/CurrentStudents/China/interest.asp</a></p>
<p>Finally, you could study abroad at hundreds of other locations as well</p>
<p>Here is the Link to the business school in general.
<a href="http://www.sba.muohio.edu/home/%5B/url%5D">http://www.sba.muohio.edu/home/</a></p>
<p>I've revised A2Wolves suggestions a bit</p>
<p>REACH: North Carolina, Penn, Cal-Berkeley
MATCH: Virginia, Notre Dame, Wash U (Stl), NYU, Michigan, USC
SAFETY: Texas, Indiana, Carnegie Mellon, Miami</p>
<p>Is their anymore criteria that you haven't stated about what you'd like in a school?</p>
<p>I'd group the schools above into a few clumps based on similarities
1: UNC, UVA, Miami, Indiana
2: Wash U, Penn, NYU, Carnegie
3: Michigan, USC, Texas
4: Notre Dame
5: Cal</p>
<p>I wouldn't say that Miami has a top ranked Accounting department. They are ranked 28th, behind many the recommended schools. (CMU, WUSTL, rank behind it).</p>
<p>Top undergraduate Accounting departments according to the US News & World Report:</p>
<h1>1 University of IllinoisUrbana Champaign</h1>
<p>#2 University of TexasAustin (McCombs) **
*#3 University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) *
**#4 University of MichiganAnn Arbor (Ross)
#5 University of Southern California (Marshall) **
*#6 New York University (Stern) *
**#7 University of CaliforniaBerkeley (Haas) </p>
<h1>8 Brigham Young UniversityProvo (Marriott)</h1>
<p>#9 Indiana UniversityBloomington (Kelley)
#9 University of North CarolinaChapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) </p>
<h1>11 University of Florida (Warrington)</h1>
<p>#11 University of Notre Dame (Mendoza)</p>
<h1>13 Ohio State UniversityColumbus (Fisher)</h1>
<h1>14 Wake Forest University (Calloway) (NC)</h1>
<h1>15 University of Washington</h1>
<h1>16 Arizona State University (Carey)</h1>
<h1>17 University of Arizona (Eller)</h1>
<h1>17 University of Georgia (Terry)</h1>
<h1>19 Michigan State University (Broad)</h1>
<h1>20 Bentley College (MA)</h1>
<p>#20 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan) </p>
<h1>20 University of Iowa (Tippie)</h1>
<h1>20 University of WisconsinMadison</h1>
<h1>20 Texas A&M UniversityCollege Station (Mays)</h1>
<h1>25 Northern Illinois University</h1>
<h1>25 University of Alabama (Culverhouse)</h1>
<h1>25 University of MinnesotaTwin Cities (Carlson)</h1>
<p>#28 Miami UniversityOxford (Farmer) (OH)</p>
<h1>28 University of IllinoisChicago</h1>
<h1>28 University of MissouriColumbia</h1>
<p>*#28 University of Virginia (McIntire) *</p>
<p>annn - I will be attending a UT Honors Colloquium in July, in which I will learn more about the Business Honors program.</p>
<p>irish200 - Actually, a good study abroad program is another factor I would like in colleges. I'm excited to hear that Miami has some great options as far as study abroad. Do you know about any of the other schools listed?</p>
<p>A2Wolves6 - do you also have a list of the Finance program rankings from US News? Do they rank them? Thanks!</p>
<p>nathanTX- sorry, but i don't have much other info. I specifically detailed Miami's options because I know they are pretty unique (esp. Luxembourg) among national universities and I attend MU and know the most about that particular school.
I also looked at/applied to a lot of the same schools we are suggesting.</p>
<p>Finally, I think if you scroll up a little...A2Wolves posted a Finance ranking. Not sure if thats the one you were asking about?</p>
<p>But A2Wolves, can you post the rankings of undergrad business schools (from U.S. News) all the way to 100 (or close). I find it odd that Ohio State Fisher is ranked so high in both finance and accounting--usually Fisher is only ranked high for its graduate programs.
Also if there is a marketing list- could you post that as well haha. Thanks</p>
<p>irish200 - ah yes, my ignorance :) (about the rankings)
If you don't mind my asking, what is your major? Also, how is Oxford as a town?</p>
<p>I like that Luxembourg option for study abroad. I've always wanted to study abroad in Europe, and that location would be quite interesting due to the fusing of French and German culture in that region. Is instruction in English?</p>
<p>To add parameters to the search, let's go ahead and say that the college must NOT be located in</p>
<p>1) an extremely high-crime area with little to no college-oriented businesses
2) A large city with lots of traffic and no transportation options other than automobile</p>
<p>My major is Marketing (Sports marketing specifically), and I am in the business honors program (which has about 30 members for each graduating class- get to know these people well). As described above I really like it, and just got an internship with the athletic dept.</p>
<p>Oxford as a town is well, a college town (Like Chapel Hill (UNC) and little like Bloomington-IU). It's small and self-sufficient. The town caters to the college and gives you everything a college student needs.<br>
I had a friend visit me, who had never been to Miami but always said I should've gone to his school instead. He told me "If he could film a movie about college he'd film it in Oxford and on Miami's campus), becuase its what college should be like"</p>
<p>Oxford sits about 30 miles Northwest of Cincinnati along the Indiana-Ohio border in between a beatiful landscape of forests, hills and corn. So if you need to go to a mall or something then you could go to Cincy (you would be allowed a car as a frosh or get a ride from a friend). A lot of people go to Bengals and Reds games in the Fall and Spring as well, or concerts/plays etc. in Cincy, Indianapolis, or Dayton.</p>
<p>As for Oxford itself:
"Uptown" is the part of the town practically owned by students. Its a long strip of restaruants, stores, tanning places, bars (miami has over 20 which is VERY high for any school, and you can get in about 10 of them if you are over 18 yrs old), delis, bookstores, a movie theatre etc.
The road on this strip is, OF COURSE, made of red brick. It also contains a park where there are usually local concerts or last yr we had All-American Rejects Perform.
On a Thursday, Friday, or Saturday Night Uptown is PACKED with students and its sooo fun. You'll certainly see a bunch of people you know.</p>
<p>Miami has its own bus system- the Miami Metro System which runs effectively through campus.</p>
<p>3 Police Stations patrol (Miami U, Oxford, and Butler County). And the city is notoriously known for being EXTREMELY safe. I walk alone all the time at night and feel safe.</p>
<p>Miami hosts D1 Football, Basketball (where many concerts are held) and Hockey- which is extremely popular among the student body. If you haven't been to a hockey game (esp. at Miami), you will love it- the atmosphere is unlike anything else. The team was ranked #1 in the nation at one point last year and next year moves into a brand new Ice Arena.</p>
<p>Wow, enough of Oxford haha</p>
<p>Luxembourg- yes, instruction is in English. I haven't decided where I'm going but most likely it'll be Luxembourg. You'll have classes a couple days a week and then you can travel the rest and weekends. The Central Location makes London, Paris, Spain, Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland, and Italy all very accessible.</p>
<p>here's some oxford stuff and pics
<a href="http://www.cityofoxford.org/index.asp%5B/url%5D">http://www.cityofoxford.org/index.asp</a>
<a href="http://www.miami.muohio.edu/about_miami/virtual_tour/panorama/gatesexp.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://www.miami.muohio.edu/about_miami/virtual_tour/panorama/gatesexp.cfm</a>
<a href="http://www.miami.muohio.edu/living_at_miami/ox_community/index.cfm%5B/url%5D">http://www.miami.muohio.edu/living_at_miami/ox_community/index.cfm</a></p>
<p>that was a long post</p>
<p>Nathan, the finance ranking was posted on the first page of the thread.</p>
<p>I also wanted to let you know to look at Cornell's business program. Yes, you have a good chance there for admission.</p>
<p>I just saw that you didn't want a big city, you want a college town. If that's true, i'd get rid of Penn, MIT, Berkeley, Carnegie Mellon, NYU, USC, WUSTL, and Emory. These are all in major metropolitan areas and aren't going to be what you are looking for in a town centered around it's university.</p>
<p>Michigan, North Carolina, Texas, Virginia, Indiana, Cornell, and Notre Dame would be better suited for you then.</p>
<p>US NEWS 2006 UNDERGRADUATE BUSINESS RANKINGS</p>
<p>1.University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
2.Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan)
3.University of CaliforniaBerkeley (Haas) *
University of MichiganAnn Arbor <em>
5.Carnegie Mellon University (PA)
New York University (Stern)
U. of North CarolinaChapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) ***
*University of TexasAustin (McCombs) **
9.Univ. of Southern California (Marshall)
*University of Virginia (McIntire) **
*11.Indiana UniversityBloomington (Kelley) **
**12.Cornell University (NY)
Purdue Univ.West Lafayette (Krannert) (IN)</em>
U. of IllinoisUrbana-Champaign *
Univ. of MinnesotaTwin Cities (Carlson) *
Univ. of WisconsinMadison *
Washington University in St. Louis (Olin)
18.Emory University (Goizueta) (GA)
Ohio State UniversityColumbus (Fisher) *
Pennsylvania State U.University Park (Smeal) *
University of Arizona (Eller) *
22.Michigan State University (Broad) *
Univ. of MarylandCollege Park (Smith) *
University of Notre Dame (IN)
University of Washington *
26.Arizona State University (Carey) *
Babson College (MA)
Georgetown University (McDonough) (DC)
University of Florida (Warrington) *
30.Boston College (Carroll)
Case Western Reserve Univ. (Weatherhead) (OH)
Texas A&M Univ.College Station (Mays) *
University of Georgia (Terry) *
Wake Forest University (Calloway) (NC)
35.Brigham Young Univ.Provo (Marriott) (UT)
Georgia Institute of Technology *
Southern Methodist University (Cox) (TX)
University of ColoradoBoulder *
University of Iowa (Tippie) *
40.Boston University
Syracuse University (Whitman) (NY)
Tulane University (Freeman) (LA)
University of Arkansas (Walton) *
University of Pittsburgh *
Univ. of South CarolinaColumbia (Moore) *
Virginia Tech (Pamplin) *
47.Bentley College (MA)
College of William and Mary (VA)*
CUNYBaruch College (Zicklin) *
Florida State University *
George Washington University (DC)
Georgia State University (Robinson) *
Miami UniversityOxford (Farmer) (OH)<em>
Univ. of MissouriColumbia *
University of Oklahoma (Price) *
University of Tennessee *
57.Auburn University (AL)</em>
Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst. (Lally) (NY)
Santa Clara University (Leavey) (CA)
University of Alabama (Culverhouse) *
University of Kansas *
University of Kentucky (Gatton) *
Univ. of NebraskaLincoln *
University of Oregon (Lundquist) *
University of Utah (Eccles) *
66.Baylor University (Hankamer) (TX)
DePaul University (IL)
Louisiana State U.Baton Rouge (Ourso) *
North Carolina State U.Raleigh *
Northeastern University (MA)
Pepperdine University (Graziadio) (CA)
Rochester Inst. of Technology (NY)
United States Air Force Acad. (CO)*
University of Connecticut *
University of IllinoisChicago *
Univ. of MassachusettsAmherst (Isenberg) *
77.Clemson University (SC)*
Iowa State University *
RutgersNew Brunswick (NJ)*
San Diego State University *
Temple University (Fox) (PA)*
University at BuffaloSUNY *
Univ. of CaliforniaRiverside *
University of Denver (Daniels)
University of Miami (FL)
University of Richmond (Robins) (VA)
87.American University (Kogod) (DC)
Colorado State University *
Fordham University (NY)
Lehigh University (PA)
Loyola University Chicago
Marquette University (WI)
Oklahoma State University *
St. Louis University
Texas Christian University (Neeley)
Texas Tech University (Rawls) *
University of AlabamaBirmingham *
University of Delaware *
University of Louisville (KY)*
University of Mississippi *
U. of North CarolinaCharlotte (Belk) *
University of San Diego
University of TexasDallas *
Villanova University (PA)
Washington State University *
106.George Mason University (VA)*
James Madison University (VA)*
Kansas State University *
Loyola Marymount University (CA)
University of Cincinnati *
University of Houston (Bauer) *
University of TexasArlington *
Univ. of WisconsinMilwaukee *
Virginia Commonwealth University *
Washington and Lee University (VA)
116.Ball State University (IN)*
California State U.Los Angeles *
Creighton University (NE)
Drexel University (LeBow) (PA)
Hofstra University (Zarb) (NY)
Northern Illinois University *
Ohio University *
Oregon State University *
Pace University (Lubin) (NY)
RutgersNewark (NJ)*
San Jose State University (CA)*
Seton Hall University (Stillman) (NJ)
Southern Illinois U.Carbondale *
SUNYAlbany *
SUNYBinghamton *
Trinity University (TX)
University of Central Florida *
Univ. of Colo.Colorado Springs *
University of Dayton (OH)
University of Memphis (Fogelman) *
Univ. of MissouriKansas City (Bloch) *
University of New Mexico (Anderson) *
University of San Francisco (McLaren)
West Virginia University *
Wichita State University (Barton) (KS)*
141.Bowling Green State University (OH)*
Cal PolySan Luis Obispo *
Florida International University *
Gonzaga University (WA)
John Carroll University (OH)
Kennesaw State University (Coles) (GA)*
Kent State University (OH)*
Loyola College in Maryland (Sellinger)
Loyola University New Orleans (Butt)
Mississippi State University *
RutgersCamden (NJ)*
Seattle University (Albers)
St. Joseph's University (Haub) (PA)
University of AlabamaHuntsville *
University of ColoradoDenver and Health Sciences Center *
University of Idaho *
Univ. of MissouriSt. Louis *
University of NebraskaOmaha *
University of NevadaLas Vegas *
University of New Hampshire (Whittemore) *
U. of North CarolinaGreensboro (Bryan) *
University of North Texas *
University of Rhode Island *
University of South Florida *
University of Tulsa (OK)
Xavier University (Williams) (OH)</p>
<p>AVERAGED US NEWS/BUSINESS WEEK UNDERGRADUATE RANKINGS</p>
<p>1 University of Pennsylvania
2 MIT
3 Michigan
4 UVA
5 NYU
6 Texas- Austin
7 UCB
8 UNC
9 Indiana
9 Carnegie Mellon
11 Emory
12 Notre Dame
13 Cornell
14 Washington University (Stl.)
15 USC
16 Illinois- Urbana-Champaign
17 Minnesota
18 Georgetown
18 Wisconsin
20 Brigham Young
21 Penn State
22 Michigan State
23 Boston College
24 Wake Forest
24 Babson
26 Southern Methodist
27 Purdue
28 Maryland
29 Ohio State University
30 Miami U- OH
30 TAMU (Texas A&M)
32 Arizona
33 Boston University
33 Georgia
35 Washington
35 Florida
37 Iowa
38 Bently
39 Syracuse
40 George Washington
41 Pittsburgh
42 Richmond
43 Northeastern
44 Baylor
45 Lehigh
46 Villanova
47 TCU (Texas Christian)
48 U of Miami- FL
49 Denver
50 Marquette
51 Fordham
52 James Madison</p>
<p>irish200- Here is the Marketing rankings for US News 2006:</p>
<p>Marketing:</p>
<ol>
<li>University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) </li>
<li>University of MichiganAnn Arbor * </li>
<li>University of TexasAustin (McCombs) * </li>
<li>University of CaliforniaBerkeley (Haas) *
U. of North CarolinaChapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) * </li>
<li>New York University (Stern) </li>
<li>Indiana UniversityBloomington (Kelley) * </li>
<li>Univ. of WisconsinMadison * </li>
<li>University of Florida (Warrington) * </li>
<li>Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan)
Univ. of Southern California (Marshall) </li>
<li>Ohio State UniversityColumbus (Fisher) *
University of Virginia (McIntire) * </li>
<li>Emory University (Goizueta) (GA)
U. of IllinoisUrbana-Champaign * </li>
<li>Michigan State University (Broad) *
Pennsylvania State U.University Park (Smeal) * </li>
<li>Arizona State University (Carey) *
Univ. of MarylandCollege Park (Smith) * </li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon University (PA) </li>
<li>University of Arizona (Eller) *
University of Georgia (Terry) *
Univ. of MinnesotaTwin Cities (Carlson) *
University of Notre Dame (IN)
University of Washington * </li>
</ol>
<p>US News only lists the top 25 programs, their list doesn't go any further.</p>
<p>some of those discretions are huge</p>
<p>With your new criteria I also like...
Indiana, UNC, UVA, Miami, Michigan, Notre Dame, REALLY LIKE Cornell</p>
<p>Cal and Texas are not quite fitting, but still work</p>
<p>irish200 - Where to start...LOL...Sports Marketing is a very intriguing option. Could that also be a minor (I'd like to major in finance)?</p>
<p>I enjoyed my time in Chapel Hill, so if your comparison is apt, I would probably also enjoy Oxford. Everything I read about it, I liked. </p>
<p>Hockey is big on campus? That sounds perfect. As you can probably guess since I am from Texas, I am a football fan, but I am probably a bigger hockey fan. Hockey isn't a huge sport in Texas (yet) but we do have more professional hockey teams than any other North American state or province. While I've been to several hundred hockey games, I've never seen a college hockey game, so that would be a new experience for me. </p>
<p>A2Wolves6 - Yes, ideally, I'd like a college town. However, don't rule all large cities out. Some colleges are in areas of large cities that are geared toward college students (such as Southern Methodist's location in the University Park area of Dallas). However, I think we can probably rule out NYU, USC, WUSTL, and Emory. </p>
<p>Thanks for the average rankings list. That's probably the most accurate list anyone can look at.</p>
<p>You would LOVE Michigan Hockey games. Yost Ice Arena is absolutely ridiculous. Miami Hockey is also very good. Cornell Hockey is in the top 10 too.</p>
<p>Cornell is a new suggestion...I've heard that it's probably the worst Ivy...any truth to that? Is their business school public or private?</p>
<p>OMG, It's a fricken Ivy. They are all ridiculously good. And Cornell is one of the only to offer Business (Brown, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Dartmouth, and Columbia don't have business), only Cornell and Penn offer Business. It's one of the top 10 schools in the nation. So even if it's the "worst", it's still in the top 10.</p>
<p>It's a private school, all Ivies are. But the bonus is that means better financial aid for you. Seriously, do a EFC calculator, and find out what you are expected to pay. I was shocked at the low number I got. Private schools have lots of grants waiting for you, and they will fill 100% of your need (Cornell and Penn).</p>
<p>NathanTx-
You can major in finance, and minor in marketing. There is no SPORTS marketing major per say, but you can focus your classes in that area (hence what I'm doing) and I just got that internship. You could also consider a double major.
I'm not sure I'd worry too much about your major... you'd be suprised how much flexibility you'll have. Many people have great jobs completely unrelated to anything they did in college.</p>
<p>Chapel Hill and Oxford are VERY similar. I'm in love with them both. I hope to go to UNC for grad school and then live in Raleigh.</p>
<p>Hockey is HUGE on campus- bigger than football (but that was big esp. when Ben Rothelisberger was here), everybody goes to the games... and Miami has a small arena (smaller than Yost at Michigan) and the student fill most of it, including standing about 6 rows deep all the way around the glass (and banging on it). The New Ice Arena will open next yr- so I don't know of the atmosphere there yet- but I'm sure it'll be great.</p>
<p>take a look at this: <a href="http://muredhawks.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/ice-arena-construction.html%5B/url%5D">http://muredhawks.cstv.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/ice-arena-construction.html</a></p>
<p>the next step in your college choice would be enrollment size:
You still have a bit of diversity in that</p>
<p>Texas, Michigan and Indiana are all greater than 30,000 (correct me if i'm wrong)</p>
<p>UNC, UVA, and Miami are around 15,000</p>
<p>and Cornell and Notre Dame are smaller</p>
<p>I have heard that Cornell is half-public, half-private. What are the financial aid ramifications of that? Also...I know that all of the Ivies are absolutely awesome. I just don't want to go to a school that has a major inferiority complex. </p>
<p>I just looked on Cornell's website and I see a Johnson Graduate School of Management. Does this school also offer undergrad?</p>
<p>Haha, Cornell, being the "worst" Ivy doesn't mean a thing. You could still say you WENT to an Ivy League school. Personally, I'd rather go to Cornell or Dartmouth than Yale, Harvard or Princeton. But really I like where I am now (I like a good public school over an Ivy)</p>
<p>Irish200 - That new arena looks beautiful. </p>
<p>As far as enrollment size, I'd really like a school with undergrad enrollment between 5,000 and 20,000 so 15,000 would be ideal. Texas is much bigger than that, but I do not know about Michigan and Indiana. Enrollment is a relatively minor factor in my decision.</p>
<p>Only a few parts of Cornell are public, and I doubt it has any effect on financial aid.</p>