<p>Am I misunderstanding something or can I still drop a class for summer session C? I still have the option of dropping the course on Telebears. I know I will probably loose the fees but what about the grade? Will the class be completely expunged from my transcript if I drop now? Thanks.</p>
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<p>if it is the last or only summer class you have, your transcript will say that you withdrew by petition. </p>
<p>However, if you first register in some easy summer course that you can get into, then drop the one you want to exit, the class disappears from your transcript and you are not ‘withdrawing’ since you will take this substitute class. Find a class that will let you in and where you can still get a decent grade (or a P if you take it P/NP).</p>
<p>Ok, so say that right now in session C, I am taking Chem 3BL (2units) and Math 54 (4units). So, if I want to drop Math 54, I can do so, and it will simply disappear from my transcript because I am taking Chem 3BL?</p>
<p>Also, if I do not need the course I want to drop for a major or med school requirement and do not plan to take the class in the future, it would be significantly better to drop the class, so long as dropping would erase the class from my transcript, than taking it P/NP right"?</p>
<p>sorry to do this but bumpppp</p>
<p>yes. (10char)</p>
<p>For session C, the dates have passed for dropping the course without a record.</p>
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<p>You had until June 24 to drop and receive the money back for the credits. You could have dropped it up to July 1 and had it disappear from the record. If it were the only course and you needed to register in a replacement to avoid the withdrawal stigma, that deadline was June 13.</p>
<p>At this point, you only have a few choices. </p>
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<li><p>Continue with the course and earn the best grade you have. It has the potential to impact your GPA, either up or down, depending on how you do.</p></li>
<li><p>Withdraw entirely from summer session, losing the 3BL class too, and have your transcript list this as withdrawal by student request. Plan on having an explanatory discussion with every application for future education and for job interviews, but as long as it is reasonable it might not hurt. Does not affect your GPA.</p></li>
<li><p>Change the grading option to P/NP and be sure to pass. That is neutral for your GPA and since you don’t plan med school or capped major application that require the class, at the worst it might cause a question or two on grad school or job interviews, but you could easily explain it as intellectual curiousity about that range of mathematics as an exploration to see if you might want to move in a more math intensive direction. Since the whole purpose of P/NP grading is to motivate students to take risks and to explore unknown areas, doing P/NP is acceptable and understood. </p></li>
<li><p>Change the grading option to P/NP and then fail. Not good for job interview or grad school applications, but does not impact your GPA. </p></li>
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<p>Some other factors - those getting financial aid have minimum unit requirements for summer attendance to receive aid, thus dropping a class has that added complication to consider. Med school applications will ignore the P of a P/NP class. The committee might have questions but since math is not even a requirement for the majority of med schools and the most basic level of calc is the requirement at the few that do care, this isn’t an issue even if you do become a premed in the future. If you change your mind later and switch to a major that wants M 54, you can’t use the P/NP version to satisfy the requirement while a grade result renders it fully valuable. Finally, withdrawing, if you had done it, erases the course so it erases the units. If you pass it with a P, those units move you ahead toward graduation, advance your status slightly for telebears appointments, and thus are a good thing.</p>
<p>Someone clarify. If I registered for a session D class and dropped it before class began, is the class gone or will I get a withdraw? I had a session B class as well and another class so I have not gone under units and I have not cancelled registration.</p>
<p>Rider730: I am definitely premed. So taking it p/np would be the best option? It will definitely bring my gpa down if I keep it letter grade. Will it not be an issue for med school committes? I just don’t want to make a decision now that will keep me out of med school no matter how well I do in my other classes.</p>
<p>And I would just say I was taking the class for intellectual curiosity if they ask? Is it even probable that they will have questions?</p>
<p>If it were a core class for med school, it would be a big issue. </p>
<p>If it were ‘real sciences’ which would be chem, bio, physics from their perspective, it might trigger a question.</p>
<p>As it is math and you have taken the year for letter grade and done well, I personally wouldn’t expect a question to be asked but if someone were interviewing you and hunting around for questions to understand you better, they might bring it up.</p>
<p>Wrong answer (to a med school adcom) - I took it P/NP to avoid a hit on my GPA
Right answer - I was curious about this branch of math and took it to explore</p>
<p>You don’t want them thinking you are a work-shirking slacker avoiding as much effort as possible. You don’t want them to think you are a grade-whore (as if that isn’t what the whole med school application process forces upon everyone). You don’t want them to think that you slacked off through the semester, realized you were in trouble because you didn’t try hard enough, then took the easy way out with a P/NP. You want them to think that the P/NP was intentional from the start, that you took the class out of curiousity, and that it is like any other exploratory/elective P/NP on your transcript - something peripheral to your education and unrelated to med school, but you are not afraid of extra work so you took this on just to stretch yourself a bit. </p>
<p>It might look marginally better to get an A in the class than to get a P, but as long as you don’t make it look like it is the result of laziness or worse, I wouldn’t be worried about it. Between the weeder courses and the curves here, the challenges of the MCAT and all the other obstacles on the way to a med school acceptance, this is a pretty minor worry. It will get much much worse on the anxiety scale, at least for most premeds here it did.</p>
<p>All right, thanks a lot for your advice rider. What I don’t understand is why it still seems to let me drop the course on telebears…All it says is: the course fees will not be refunded to you.</p>