Summer Programs 2009! It's that time of year again.

<p>I'm going to attempt to respond to violinmom's question, since no one else has. I'm answering based on years of observation of my S's choices, beginning with his first programs in middle school, all the way through his current position as a grad student. </p>

<p>How many?</p>

<p>The first few camps he went to were not that selective, and he applied only to one each summer. The first two (7th and 8th grade) were local programs. It wasn't so much "applying for" as "signing up for". We knew nothing at that point except it would be a fun opportunity for him to do something in the summer. It wasn't until college that he started applying to more competitive programs and applied to multiple ones. This year he applied to 5, because, like college aps, there are no guarantees.</p>

<p>Reason for applying?</p>

<p>Referral, recommendation, reputation, remuneration (had to stay with the Rs)....</p>

<p>Initially, it was teacher recommendation through his band director. As it became clear that he was ready for "harder work", we began our education of what was out there. Following 8th grade he was recruited for Brevard (via his private teacher), but we weren't ready to send him away for the summer. He went the following year. </p>

<p>Learning about various camps has been a process achieved mostly via his teachers and networking. He attends one camp, and learns about others. He reads bios on performers and finds out where they spent time. One thing he hasn't done is go where his current teachers teach. He says his classmates are amazed that he managed to make it all the way through Juilliard undergrad without ever attending Aspen (also known as Juilliard Summer Camp ;) ). He specifically seeks out new teachers. </p>

<p>Off the subject, after a recent audition, he was explaining in detail various ways he played. I don't think he realized what he was doing, but as he was talking, he told me Teacher A had suggested to do this, and he learned this from Teacher B, and he practiced this the way Teacher C had explained...... He has a depth and breadth of knowledge that has come from subjecting himself to a variety of teachers. He is also, personality-wise, extremely teachable.</p>

<p>For the rest of high school, he attended another summer program recommended by his private teacher that came with a scholarship. That brings us to our second "reason" - money. Since 10th grade, he has attended programs that were either free, or paid him.</p>

<p>The third "reason for applying" has to do with what he gets out of it. He now looks for programs that he feels will further his abilities and marketability. Like with colleges, he looks for good teachers, and later success of those who attended.</p>

<p>And the fourth reason for applying answers the first and third questions as well: Once you reach a high level of selectivity, admission is something of a crap shoot. As I said, he applied to five programs. At the first two, he came away feeling really good about his audition. At the next two, he felt he did just "okay", and at the fifth one, he felt he did poorly, like he was sight-reading, he said.</p>

<p>He was accepted to one of the programs where his audition was "just okay", and named alternate for all four of the rest. Just before he committed to the one acceptance, he got off the waitlist -- for the one he felt was his worst audition. And that is where he will be this summer, because he feels it is the best addition to his experience and resume. </p>

<p>I'm purposely not naming the programs, partly to protect his identity at least a little, and partly because I think this list is mainly focusing on high school and undergrad students. But I wanted to give a stab at offering his reasons (as I understand them - which isn't always completely accurate!)</p>

<p>[Any typos are my cat's fault, who keeps climbing on my keyboard!]</p>

<p>As to reasons, in late middle school, high school it can be a means of developing skills, playing under faculty in consideration for undergrad selections, developing a sense of a student's ability against a specific audition pool level, a gauge to determine if a student wants the continued immersion of a performance degree pursuit, or specific rep or concentration focus, (orchestral versus chamber). These can be instructor recommended, or personal choices, or from peer comments based on their own experiences.</p>

<p>Monetary/financial considerations drive many, and some are drawn by a name, or reputation.</p>

<p>As for undergrad choices, it's also a balance, based around a student's needs and desires. Money is often a prime consideration, but the numerous festival, full scholarship programs help immensely. Again, focus is important. Many will follow or be invited to by a current instructor to continue/enhance studies. Some will want specific focus in the instrument or a period, chamber focus rather than an orchestra based program. Many try to apply to research faculty for potential grad schools. </p>

<p>As to how many, it will vary. If you want full immersion in a 6, 8, or 9 week program, it pays to have a few applications unless you have a guaranteed "in". If one is looking to look for specific dates, or do shorter programs and still fill a summer, the options become more limited. In trying to do the latter, son has found travel/logistics a prime mover. One summer was particularly hairy, balancing a week long Philly gig, a two week festival, a one week program, another two week festival and an immediate two week faculty coaching PA position.</p>

<p>Again, the "getting yourself out there" and developing a network cannot be ignored. </p>

<p>An oldie but goodie with some perspectives: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/145948-summer-music-camps-necessary-college.html?highlight=summer%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/music-major/145948-summer-music-camps-necessary-college.html?highlight=summer&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>My D has never been to a music summer program, but this year she will go to Interlochen--Vocal Arts and Operetta. She's so excited! A summer of intense musical training (she can take piano lessons as an elective) AND NO ACADEMICS to try to juggle. We are thrilled for her. She applied to BUTI and has not yet heard from them, but her decision is already made--Interlochen it will be.</p>

<p>And another point that has been made elsewhere on this board, and alluded to here by violadad, but deserved repeating:</p>

<p>A summer program can really help a kid decide if they really want (or can stand) all music, all the time.</p>

<p>+1 to what binx just said. I found that going to BUTI for four years was awesome, but I also realized that I don't like just being around bassists for such a long period... this was another reason why I decided against conservatory. Yes, in the YAO at BUTI there were people who played other instruments and there were other workshops going on during the DB workshop, but bass players like hanging out together and if you don't have out with the other bassists, it's not cool at all... </p>

<p>Anyway, just was WL for Sarasota. It's ok - it one of the most popular programs for bassists because of the amazing faculty. I asked them to take me off the WL though because I can't go if I'm invited because of my school schedule. We don't finish until June 13!</p>

<p>Daughter (cello) just received notice yesterday that she was accepted at Meadowmount. Does anyone know if there is a facebook page set up for Meadowmount summer 2009 or other similar site? It would be great for her to "get to know" a few of the other students beforehand.</p>

<p>She is also returning to the UMKC Cello Clinic by Dr. Carter Enyeart prior to the start of Meadowmount - which she highly recommends although it is only a 10 day program. It is a very nice, small program with a lot of "one on one" teaching and opportunities that the larger programs don't offer. However, it is not as structured as much as some other camps so I would not recommend for a student that needs a lot of close supervision.</p>

<p>Congratulations to everyone with good news.
Got some good news about my favorite nibling (like sibling but nephew or niece) today. He's been accepted to BUTI Orchestra and Flute Institute with a fabulous scholarship. I believe more happy news will soon be reported on this thread soon!</p>

<p>I know there are many who have been waiting for BUTI, so I will be the first to ask.....</p>

<p>When did your nephew find out? Was it via e mail or phone call or snail mail?</p>

<p>I don't know the details (too excited to think of asking) except that the news was learned in the course of a routine call on a different matter and it was said that official notification would be coming soon. Could be they meant coming to the nibling, but I thought they meant to everyone in general
I remember waiting for my son's results and how much I wanted to know any scrap of info about when we would know. I will try to find out. Can't get through right now. They are probably calling everyone in the western hemisphere with the news!</p>

<p>In the years I went, notification was by post.</p>

<p>Notfromme,
D heard today via email that she was waitlisted for BUTI young artist vocal program.</p>

<p>Friend of D's heard this afternoon by email that she was accepted to BUTI YAO. D and another friend have not heard. They are hoping, finding no other distinguishing factor, that it's because they both come late in the alphabet.</p>

<p>S received his email acceptance from BUTI YAO this afternoon. They said that all info would be sent by e-mail, no packets or info by snail mail. Still waiting to hear from 2 other programs before he makes his final decision. Hopefully those will come soon.</p>

<p>We have questions regarding the availability of private lessons at Tanglewood, cannot find any info on the website. Is there even the opportunity to take private lessons? Will they send information regarding possible teachers? He is very interested to find out about this since it is important to keep up with solo study as well as chamber and orchestra over the summer. Thanks and congrats to all.</p>

<p>Just opened d's acceptance. She may just do the flute workshop, not sure if she wants to be away all summer.</p>

<p>Hi Slovesviola - Huge congrats on your S's BUTI acceptance. I am Mommybird's (above) sister and she has already reported about my S's success with BUTI YAO and Flute Institute admission today :) Looking at the BUTI website under the description of the Orchestra program it describes optional private lessons with BUTI staff including members of the BSO. Hope this helps.
PS Hi to Mommybird my S's biggest fan!</p>

<p>Regarding private lessons at BUTI: last year they did not send any info ahead of time, and did not have any info available on drop-off day either, beyond "that will be arranged." As it turned out, D did have several private lessons with a BSO member and at least one with a BU prof. I gather it was a matter of D signing up for a lesson a day or two in advance, when the sign-up sheet was posted. My impression is that she did not have an actual choice of teachers but just took what was offered (which did work out very well). We were billed literally several months after the end of camp -- a very reasonable rate.</p>

<p>Flutetalk-
Yeah! Another flute! D was also accepted to BUTI for flute. She is leaning toward only doing the workshop. She leaves for college in the fall and is not too sure she wants to be gone all summer again. (I know I would love to have her home this summer!!) But, who knows what she will be thinking in a couple of weeks. Right now she is thinking of colleges.<br>
Congrats to your son! Did he apply anyplace else?</p>

<p>I'm in for both piano sessions! :)</p>

<p>Notfromme- He only applied to BUTI. Last summer he had a blast at the Oberlin Flute Institute. Felt like he was in heaven -loved being with others who love music like he does and studying with Mr. Debost and Ms. Chastain. Sounds like he will see your D at the Flute Institute and/or the YAO. Congrats to your D!!</p>

<p>Well, D got her email from BUTI: rejected. She's very sad and somewhat surprised as she did well there last summer, and loved it. What with college applications and auditions to worry about this year, we failed to develop a plan B for summer. Programs I know of with late or rolling admissions deadlines are Eastman's Music Horizons and Strings International. Any other ideas?</p>