<p>^ you could email the SSP folks to ask them or give them a heads-up if one of your recs is being sent in separately. If your teacher has been doing recs that way for years and insists, I wouldn't want to try to change that. </p>
<p>EDIT: If you haven't sent your materials in yet, can't you take that other recommendation back to the teacher and ask him to sign it? Sign across the seal of the envelope several times too for good measure. =P</p>
<p>Please realize, SSP is a unique program, there aren't just Bio-versions, or Chem-versions. There may be programs in Biology that have similar traits, but you'd need to find them on your own. Try Cornell's Nanobiotech program, or something like RSI (well, too late for that), where you get choose your own research topic.</p>
<p>^ Excuse my wording -- that's just what I meant. </p>
<p>Are there any programs that can let you tackle your own research project that is </p>
<p>1) well known for its bio-program and
2) somewhat prestigious/selective?
3) Though most importantly, is really well known for how it can help us :D get our science projects through? </p>
<p>Or for the above usually it's all self-research and "same prestige"? </p>
<p>Question though: Would Ross and promys be the solution to the above problem?</p>
<p>Thanks. I have no idea about science internships, but I am SO excited about those!</p>
<p>Scratch the above, I totally confused Ross and promys as a science program ... </p>
<p>So are there any science programs (that preferably last 6 weeks, starting early June) that is...</p>
<p>1) well known for its bio-program and
2) somewhat prestigious/selective?
3) Though most importantly, is really well known for how it can help us get our science projects through?</p>
<p>HSHSP maybe? deadlines for RSI and Jackson Lab summer programs have past..
have you considered contacting a local research university to see if you can work in a lab over the summer?</p>
<p>Oh I heard HSHSP is more physical science-oriented, while Baylor and Clark are more biology-oriented. There's also Garcia and NIH, but I believe there's residency stipulations for those.</p>
<p>Stanford SIMR? Clark is good. You can try the Young Scholars Program at UC Davis. It's bio/environmental sci oriented. [YSPtemplate[/url</a>]. Garcia and Simmons are more physical science, I believe. </p>
<p>It really depends on the quality of your own research whether it'll produce something that will work well for you as a science project. Sure, the mentors at these programs help, but they certainly aren't necessary or any guarantee at science fairs. I would appreciate the opportunity to work with scientists in a lab whether or not its in a prestigious/selective program. I agree with pianista, contact some local universities and see if you can find somebody interested in mentoring you.</p>
<p>I asked my Calc teacher for a recommendation, and the envelope was kind of see through. I saw the check marks he had on the letter. Almost all of his check marks were on the "Top 5% of students taught this year" I couldnt clearly see whether he marked any "top few I ever taught."
Well, he did teach for a long time here, and I only knew him a little. He checked "strongly" for character and "enthusiastically" for academic promise.
Are those . . . good enough?? I Was thinking many SSP admits had their checks on "top few I taught" box . . .</p>
<p>QuantumArbiter, the fact that you saw that the envelope was see-throughish, looked at the recommendation, and are now posting about it on a PUBLIC forum, says something about your discretion, to say the least. But as far as your question, I don't necessarily think admits have the top in the career slot. It's not expected when you have a teacher that has been teaching for many years. I'd say the top 5% box is enough.</p>
<p>^ Yeah, I know. I felt really bad about it, and so yesterday I decided to ask my AP Stats teacher for the math recommendation. I gave him a non-see through envelope, and he was glad to do it for me. As for the calc teacher recommendation, I decided to not use it. I guess I could recycle it since my Calc teacher said he took five minutes to fill the sheet out (So I won't feel bad about wasting his time :))</p>
<p>lol my Calc teacher showed me mine last year (I never turned in my application because I was a freshman), and had checked all of the boxes saying "one of the top few I have ever taught" and went on to make a note on the bottom saying that I was the best he'd ever seen...far too flattering to say the least...</p>
<p>^ That's exactly why I'm afraid. Why didn't that happen to me . . . I guess i didn't spend lots of time with my calc teacher . . .</p>
<p>my academic ability was checked at top 15% percent while everything else was at top 5%. i guess I didn't do so well on the mandelbrot exams . . .</p>
<p>you know, i doubt teacher recs can really mean that much when it comes to ssp. i mean, checking boxes is so subjective. </p>
<p>hmm. i think i have a worse problem. i cant even access the application. when i click on the part that has all the instructions it says the file doesnt exist....</p>
<p>Does anybody know how the third recommendation would be formatted? Would the person I am asking need to write a letter to SSP or would that person need to fill out a form? Thanks</p>
<p>I so agree its so subjective. I mean I'm 4/500 in my school. Math is my strong subject and yet my teacher marked me 15% top. Its so frustrating. I hope it doesn't happen with my AP Stats teacher</p>