suspension due to academic dishonesty

<p>yeah and maybe if person A cured cancer too? look here, i am all for 2nd chances; however my point is that the choice the op decided to make was because of character flaw, not because of stress or any other excuse people keep making up. if he can change his character flaw or did change it after the incident, thats great then.</p>

<p>I agree Hamman. But the fact that he was remorseful doesn't change the severity of the incident at the time. Adcoms will still question whether he will have a relapse if judgment (if you think that's what it was) or slip back into his "old" character (if you think it was a character flaw).</p>

<p>^ Again, what?? Say a person was cresting a hill, not expecting anyone to be on the other side, going a little over the speed limit, and accidentally hit someone who was walking in the middle of the road. This person in the car is so remorseful about what they've done that they sink into a lifelong depression and contemplate suicide. This is a real incident.</p>

<p>Another person brutally, sadistically tortured someone for hours and then killed them. Expresses no remorse. Happens all the time too.</p>

<p>So yeah, I <em>would</em> say person 1 is better than person 2.</p>

<p>ETA: this is in response to post #59...wow you people type fast</p>

<p>ETA II: and Baelor, that's why I think it's important for him to highlight the fact that he's remorseful, has changed, etc. in the essay, not to ignore it or try to hide it.</p>

<p>Ok, now to help the poster.
1. Don't blame the incident on stress of bs like that. Wanna look good? Take responsibility. "I have no one and nothing to blame but myself."</p>

<ol>
<li><p>If the English teacher likes you, get a recommendation from her! Nothign will look better. If she can show in her rec that you grew from that, and worked extra hard, it can only be helpful to you. </p></li>
<li><p>In your essay, try and show how you helped the community with what you learned through your mistake. "I made sure to tell my little bro or cuz that no matter how tempting, it's one of the stupidest things to do"</p></li>
</ol>

<p>"ETA II: and Baelor, that's why I think it's important for him to highlight the fact that he's remorseful, has changed, etc. in the essay, not to ignore it or try to hide it."</p>

<p>Right! This is the most important thing to remember, far more important than most of the discussion (to which I have contributed, lol).</p>

<p>aite little galaxie since you like these comparison games how about this one? i made it just for you</p>

<p>Person A raped and molested his little daughters and friends.
Happens all the time</p>

<p>Person B abuses his wife and almost beat her to death
Happens all the time</p>

<p>CHOOSE YOUR CHOICE AND YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN A NEW X-BOX!</p>

<p>This is getting pathetic...</p>

<p>Mmm 3365, <em>you're</em> the one who stated that: "severity of incident does not matter." So you then proceed to give me...two incidents that are of more or less the <em>same</em> severity to counteract my example that severity <em>does</em> matter? Do you see how that doesn't exactly work...</p>

<p>edit: OK, this is my last post here. I swear.</p>

<p>Could we please ignore 3365 troll please? He's just wasting time. Let's at least try to have a moderately civil discussion.</p>

<p>exactly. conclusion of thread- op is forgiven if he is TRULY sorry for what he did and will never do it again</p>

<p>i am going to be the better person and not argue with you galaxie.</p>

<p>remorse people, that's the key</p>

<p>I wonder what the OP thinks when he reads this</p>

<p>and yes kingofqueens (love the show! ), I agree, there is a better way to spend our time</p>

<p>lol, why say it? your words have made you sound high and mighty enough</p>

<p>thanks hamnan. i am not going to argue with you either. if you wish, you can continue posting about my mightiness and someday you will be as mighty as i am. good luck.</p>

<p>haha, alright, see you around Harvard buddy</p>

<p>EDIT: oh, shame, I won't....</p>

<p>wonderful, i am glad i wont see you there. who should i thank for this blessing?</p>

<p>lol, you don't know what a relief that is for all of us here :]
still, good luck with your collegiate endeavors though</p>

<p>oh wow i guess it turns out everyone wins but me the most. i will be waiting to hear your name on tv one day because you went to harvard. puhuaa</p>

<p>Bealor: Can you not just address one part of my post please? Its the oldest trick in the book here and is really annoying as well as transparent. I would have much more preferred you address the entire post and especially the part about my issues with the comparison of stealing to rape.</p>

<p>To add insult to injury, you even messed up the aforemtnioned trick and wrongly implied that I think students cheat for fun. I was not saying that at all. The implication was instead that these are NORMAL KIDS and they do make mistakes as well as sometimes behave dishonestly when it comes to academics. I'm not supporting the actions and neither would these kids. However, its small fish and they are just that, MISTAKES! </p>

<p>I find it funny the rightful inquisitors in this thread even admit to wrongdoing and have committed the same mistakes in the past (example: stole a pack of pokemon cards?). I don't know if galoisien or that 3 guy is living in a Waterboy world where what "Mama says" is right and "Mama says people who steal are the DEVIL!!" well sorry but most if not all people I know have made mistakes in their lives.</p>

<p>Comparing such a mistake to rape is very insulting and anyone who believes in such an analogy needs to attend a few seminars or educate themselves more on the subject. Rape should NOT be trivialized in such a manner.</p>

<p>Edit: Nevermind, I guess I got trolled by the 3365 guy. The amount of backpedalling and counter intuitiveness he displays should've been a red flag for me.</p>

<p>yeah i put it in my pocket and put it back on the shelf. i was then only 7. this guy is in high school.</p>