Yes, that’s the same set up ED has. You can only apply to non-binding programs and must attend if admitted. And those that are non-binding but SCEA prohibit applying to any other private.
You’re at the beginning of this process, but when your D finds her school and the coach who wants her, she will probably only be submitting that one early app. The exception will be that she can simultaneously apply to publics, like Cal and UVA.
If it is a school with LL, she will get her LL before the decision date.
you’re absolutely right that the UC/UVA applications can be simultaneous to ED/EA applications. if her attractiveness is substantially enhanced by her swim times, then one unlikely scenarios would be deciding a strong safety school outside the US, applying to UC/UVA with 1-3 non committal EAs, and subsequently applying to Ivies (with walk-on swimming opportunity) & Stanford (double legacy) with near zero walk-on swimming opportunity
While I appreciate you planning ahead, I haven’t gotten the impression that athletes (short of being world class) get to be that choosy about the schools beyond choosing the schools they reach out to. After that, it is the coach that has the preference. I could be wrong but don’t think so many athletes have the luxury of many offers.
I don’t think you need to be “world class” but depends on your level of play vs schools targeted. Assume you are a lower D1 level athlete with stellar academics, you may or may not get an “offer” from any of the Ivies or similar high academic D1 schools. However, you will likely be very attractive to academic D3 schools and receive multiple offers of coach support. It sounds like OP’s daughter may fit this description.
The approach is right, cast a wide net for schools that fit academically and where their daughter is “recruitable” based her times relative to existing team members in her events. The picture as to which schools are interested in her as an athletic recruit should become clearer by end of summer going into the fall as well as the applicant’s view of school fit/desirability. Prior to the ED deadlines, the recruit may have (A) no offers, (B) offer(s) only from schools that she is not interested in or (C) 1 or more offers which she would be happy to attend and can afford. Her next choices are based on those 3 scenarios: (A) apply to a range of academic fits RD (or EA/ED); (B) choose whether the sport trumps fit and apply ED to one of the offering schools or just apply to academic fit schools (RD or EA/ED); (C) choose and apply ED to her favorite of the offering schools.
Dartmouth ED applicants can apply to any school’s unrestricted/non-binding EA round, and/or schools with rolling admission, and/or RD:
Under Dartmouth’s ED process, students may apply for admission at other schools through early programs that are neither restricted nor binding, but will be expected to withdraw any other applications and enroll at Dartmouth if admitted early.
Thanks for this. So is the difference private schools with EA? Dartmouth ED allows one to apply to private EA schools but, as an example, Harvard REA does not?
the difference isn’t between private and public, but between ED, EA, REA (Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford) and RD. Dartmouth is ED (that doesn’t prevent you to apply anywhere else EA, except ED applications) and RD. REA only allows you to simultaneously apply early to State School if you’re applying to a specific scholarship which has a hard deadline at the same time. This simultaneous application must be approved by the REA school your applying to.
If she has any sort of relationship with the former teammate at Princeton, I’d suggest reaching out and chatting about the team and recruiting process there and at other Ivies. Athletes learn a lot about their team and others in the conference just from seeing them at meets.
I wouldn’t use it to network with the intention of influencing the coach but sometimes when an athlete on the team knows a recruit back home the coach might bring it up,
Looks good. Although I suppose the ideal is that your ED with coach support comes through on December 15. In that scenario, you would have to pull back the UVA EA application and the UC RD applications, and you would not apply to Stanford RD.
It is true that SCEA/REA applicants can apply to private EA schools for scholarship deadlines, but applicants do NOT need to get ‘approval’ from the REA/SCEA school.
This is a good plan to have, but treat it as dynamic. Insert saying here…“Man plans, God laughs”, “The best laid plans…”
Seriously though, recruiting is as much about coach priorities and perceived fit with the coach/team as it is about race times.
For example, a coach might not have prioritized a need for a student who swims short distance free, they might have more important needs for 2024. All your D can do is reach out to coaches, build relationships with the ones who engage, and go from there.
Dunno about you folks, but the lifelong friendships from college and lifetime benefits of alumni events live on everyday, whereas many hours of lecture content have long been forgotten (of course not all!). applying to college is an exciting rite of passage with many life implications, but one must keep perspective.
D24 has initiated the initial coach email/response process, with most coaches asking her to fill in their web profile form/grade/videos. amongst her D3/Ivy schools, some platforms have no login/passwords, does that mean it’s a one time submission with no possibility of subsequent updating by the athlete?
