terrible reviews

being a curious student, scrolling through websites and looking up alumni reviews on schools I’m applying to is a normal thing. but coming across absolutely terrible reviews on not one, but almost ALL boarding schools, I have no idea how I’m meant to be feeling about this…

for example, lawrenceville had stories about going in as good students and coming out as alcoholics, or about how students raised the acceptance rates only because the school accepted rich, legacies. or perhaps exeter, where stories of bullying and lack of mental health support was something prominent.

i’m a little lost here. probably should take the information with a grain of salt, but…

In general, there are always more negative reviews about anything than positive reviews.

People who have had a bad experience want to be vindicated! They want the WORLD to know about a bad situation, and they want things fixed.

People who have a good or a great experience tend to pat themselves on the back for their good judgement, and get on with their lives.

I know nothing about boarding schools. But if they were all-- or any-- as bad as what you’ve been reading, they would cease to exist. No one with a grain of compassion or love for their kids would send their kids into a terrible hellwhole. And legacies would cease to exist-- no one would send their kids to a place KNOWING it had been awful.

Visit the schools you’re interested in, and form your own opinions.

@bjkmom very good point there. i’m guessing some students just themselves didn’t have a great experience, and felt the need to let the WHOLE WORLD know how ABSOLUTELY APPALLING their experiences were.

i’m definitely going to wait for tours, or revisit day if i get in, to really form my opinions :slight_smile:

You must be aware that these schools are not the nirvanas they are believed to be. First, there are a a lot of drugs and drinking. Schools do take it seriously but there is only so much policing they can do. If you are a prize athlete or otherwise desirable entity you will get counseling a few times before you are expelled. Second, there are a lot of dumb kids (more than you might imagine) and 3) the schools have in many cases become little baby arms of liberal academia so you will find that the schools may seem more worried about social issues than teaching. Now this is not to say the schools are all bad but they (like many colleges) are surviving as brands based on good will built up over a couple of hundred years.

Also, read into the reviews. I read one about a school that is known to be nurturing and supportive written by someone that was either asked to leave or didn’t graduate. After complaining about how horrible the school was, the most specific complaint she came up with was that she couldn’t have a refrigerator or gaming system in her room. Another was obviously from a day student that was forced to go to the school by her parents and never wanted to be there anyway.

@altablue when you go on tours and have your interviews and everything looks wonderful please keep in mind that isnt real either. There is ALWAYS negatives and positives and they can and do change depending on the student and even the parent. There are even instances where one sibling is a great student and another is not so strong–but they came together… You just need to be realistic. Exeter for example has the Harkness table: some love it and some view it as competitive talking for the sake of a grade. A former Exeter student wrote an article a few years ago condemning the Harkness table for being just that.

I suppose some of what @center says rings true to me, but a lot does not. While bad news is much more interesting to read and write than good news, the statement that “there are a lot of drugs and drinking” at boarding school is not accurate in my experience, nor are the comments about “a lot of dumb kids” or the mercurial nature of counseling. And finally, @center’s comment about “little baby arms of liberal academia so you will find that the schools may seem more worried about social issues than teaching” sounds a bit like a comment you read at the bottom of a Fox News or MSNBC article.

The lesson here is to look at all the data points yourself, talk to kids and parents, do your best to find a school that feels right to you. It won’t be perfect, but if you choose wisely, it will be an invaluable experience with far more upside than down.

In my experience, revisit day was crucial in deciding what school felt right to me. I was deciding between Lawrenceville and another central NJ boarding school. While Lawrenceville was objectively far superior (based on rankings compared to other schools) than my other option, I didn’t think I would get into lville so I had imagined myself at the other school while I was applying. When I got in, I was leaning toward Lawrenceville, but I wanted to revisit at the other school because I wanted to be really sure I knew where I belonged.

At Lawrenceville, my revisit day honestly was not picture perfect, but it was great, and there were no red flags. The campus was beautiful and the food and classes were great, but my revisit day “buddy” was not the best. She was nice and all but we were both kind of awkward and nervous. That was my only issue, though, and I honestly take some responsibility. I was so awkward that she probably didn’t know how to talk to me.

At the other school (the revisit day there was the day after Lville’s), I had a very energetic and fun revisit day “buddy,” and the school did a great job of trying to sell the {insert school name here} experience. An interviewer in admissions and the coaches for my sport were also very interested in me, so they were going out of their way to talk to me about how they’d love me at their school. It really made me feel special, but not enough for me to ignore that their school, and more specifically, the people in it, was sub-par. The classes there were barely better than the classes at my public school. They didn’t use the Harkness method much, and when they did, it was ineffective. The major red flag was the students though. During the revisit day, my “buddy” and her friends openly talked about how much they hated Lawrenceville (sounds like they got rejected to me, but idk) right after I told them I was considering going there. Then they were all talking about how one of their friends, who was also a revisit day buddy, cut classes that day WITH his buddy.

I am so glad I trusted my gut on those red flags. Though the attention from school #2 made me feel great while I was there, I could tell that the community there was not strong and that the people weren’t people I would want to surround myself with. Now I’ve been at Lawrenceville and I love it. Sure, I hear about some drug use from time to time (because when you put hundreds of teenagers with each other for four years, some of them are gonna make bad choices) and such, but I hear about that because I go there. I had not heard anything about any drug use before going. I’ve heard stuff from lots of people (even people who don’t have any connection to that school) about drugs being a p big problem at the school I turned down, so I feel I made the right choice. On top of that, at my athletic competitions, I have not seen Lawrenceville have any bad sportsmanship, while the school I turned down frequently has issues with this.

I can honestly say that even in the moments my freshman year when I had no friends and was extremely unhappy, I knew I would never want to leave Lawrenceville. You can be lonely, struggling in classes, etc. but there will always be someone there for you- advisors, housemates, school psychologists, house masters, teachers, etc. Especially with the house system.

so those are some (pretty biased, not gonna lie) thoughts on my experience with choosing between schools based on how the people act. hope this helps!

For all schools that you see, there will always be bad reviews and good reviews. You could go to the best school in the world and come out horribly or you could go to a not-so-amazing school and still come out on top. From a personal experience, both my brother and sister graduated from Lville and I can tell you that they had an amazing experience there. My sister went there for 10th grade and my brother for 9th and they were very happy. Now, my brother is at Georgetown and my sister is a graduate student at Harvard. They have grown physically and mentally in the best way. I even have great memories visiting Lawrenceville because it is only about an hour and a half drive from my house. Of course, there were those students who didn’t have a good time there but it’s really all about how you apply yourself to the school. The friends you hang out with, the way you apply yourself to your academics really determine how you’re going to come out. I’m also applying to Lville as a freshman and other schools. Hope this helps!

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