<p>I have a question about the Top 10% law in texas.... right now im in the top 14%..... i have a slim chance at being in the top 10% but the time I graduate..... If I apply to a school lets say around December/January...... and most people know if they are accepted by March.....I probalby wont get in without being in the top 10% ...... so if i get rejected in March, and at the end graduate in the top 10%..... will i still get in..... i think i should but its a tough question becasue most people know if they are in by march</p>
<p>I don't think you'll get in; besides, most Texas schools don't have rolling admissions. The Top 10% pool is too big. They're having problems finding spaces for the OOS spectaculars. But hey, what do I know. Maybe you could e-mail an admissions officer at the college of your choice.</p>
<p>You are guaranteed admission to the state school of your choice if you graduate in the top 10%, it's as simple as that. UT is offering deals to kids to spend 2 years at a satellite school and the last 2 years in Austin. As far as I know, that's the only campus with a problem, but you are still guaranteed admission if you want to go there.</p>
<p>You might want to see if perhaps by mid-year you are in the top 10%. If you are then you are supposed to be admitted. I know my school does rankings like that specifically for cases like yours. Ask your counselor if thats possible.</p>
<p>I wish California had the 10% rule for its state schools. You have to be in the top 4% of your school to be guaranteed a spot at a UC (you can't choose). It used to be top 4% of the state, but poor performing public schools started complaining so the state changed it.</p>
<p>I know that was totally off topic, but I just felt like sharing ;).</p>
<p>From the Daily Texan
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Jane Kim had a 3.7 grade point average at Westwood High School and made 1530 on her SAT. However, she was deferred to UT-Dallas because she did not rank in top 10 percent of her class.
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<p>Jane should have applied out of state!</p>
<p>I know a kid in a large suburban school in houston area at about 20% of his class.... got accepted.<br>
while the top 10% rule is the 800 pound gorilla in the room --it is not the only way to get in. If you have an otherwise good record (my guess is jane kim has some other issues not mentioned)</p>
<p>AND ... UT-Austin is the only school with a big problem in this area, some at a&M; but several other large state universities --especially Texas Tech are gaining in stature as high quality students are attending there ... look at Tech as an alternate if you are in texas</p>
<p>UT San Antonio is also deferring students, and UT El Paso is having crowding problems too.</p>
<p>The statute is somewhat unclear as to what is actually required in certain situations, one of which is the student who applies while not in the top 10% and gets rejected but then ends the year in the top ten percent. One interpretation is that the college would not be required to reconsider your rejection for the upcoming year but would be required to admit you the next year, i.e., you would have to wait a year. Nevertheless, the statute could be read as actually requiring your admission for the year that you applied. On another note, if you are admitted while in the top 10% during your senior year, the college can later withdraw that admission if you do not actually graduate in the top 10%.</p>
<p>What is happening at Texas colleges, particularly UT Austin, is that more and more students are applying each year that qualify under the top 10% rule. In 2003, UT Austin admitted about 60% of its freshmen under the top 10% rule, in 2004 about 78%, and they expected 2005 to be over 80%. That trend makes it more and more difficult for the college to admit others including out-of-state.</p>
<p>My S is a resident of Texas but attends an out of state high school. The top 10% does not apply to him because he doesn't go to high school in Texas. However, I expect him to be admitted. There is no guarantee, of course, and it isn't his top choice and we don't regard it as a safety. We'll see what happens.</p>
<p>Texas (and nearby state) students - 15mbw's advice regarding Texas Tech is very good. To quote, "UT-Austin is the only school with a big problem in this area, some at a&M; but several other large state universities --especially Texas Tech are gaining in stature as high quality students are attending there ... look at Tech as an alternate if you are in texas". If you are not quite a "top 10 percenter" as a student in Texas and have SAT scores of 1200 and higher, also consider taking a look at Texas Tech's Honors College (see my posts on the Texas Tech CC thread for more info). You can be one of a 1,000 students that get creme de la creme treatment at Tech or you can be one of the tens of thousands of students at A&M or UT-Austin in the large lecture classes (especially as a freshman). PM me if you want to know more.</p>
<p>"Jane Kim had a 3.7 grade point average at Westwood High School and made 1530 on her SAT. However, she was deferred to UT-Dallas because she did not rank in top 10 percent of her class."</p>
<p>Anedoctal evidence regarding the 10% rule in Texas is often unreliable. For instance, Jane Kim could gain automatic admission at Texas A&M, just as everyone who scored above 1300 on the -old- SAT. </p>
<p>Based on a her record only, it is extremely doubtful that this candidate would not be accepted by every school in Texas ... unless her 3.7 GPA is viewed as as a clear sign of underperforming, or that the candidate lacked other meaningful assets or ECs. </p>
<p>One other way to look at this is to question why this candidate who may not be among the best 100 students at her school SHOULD be granted direct admission. Admissions at most schools is based on how well a student does against his or peers. </p>
<p>The 10% rule in Texas is not a perfect system, but the scandal is not about the wealthy underforming kids from suburbia who no longer waltz in at UT-Austin. I do not see why they would deserve much sympathy. The real issue is more about the great number of top 10% students -especially minorities- who do not find UT or Texas AM a very congenial place. If changes have to be made, it should be towards reducing the 10% number to 5% or 6% and making sure those top 5% can attend UT or TAMU. Seeing the population of automatic acceptees from the mediocre Texas Bubba schools (rural schools that live for Friday nights) or from underperforming suburbian country clubs should be a step in the direction of having both a more competitive student body and offering a better image of the distribituion of the Texas population.</p>
<p>I agree with the above poster. It should become top 5%, allowing those with truly above average all around records, rather than basing it ALL solely on GPA.</p>
<p>I just have a slight problem with the whole Texas Bubba School thing.
I come from one of those schools that live for friday nights and we are by no means stupid because of it.
I am unique because of my scholastic record, yes, but there are many more in my class who score very high on the SAT and other standardized tests.
Rural students are at a big disadvantage because we just dont have the EC's that the bigger schools have and without the 10% rule it would be real hard for us to compete with Model UN or French Club President. About the only things we do have is like Student Council and NHS.
I do, however, think the top 5% would probably be more appropriate.
I have just constantly heard stories of how rural sudents are like idiots or something and it ruffles my feathers. I had the chance to go to a Houston school but chose not to because I liked my rural school.</p>
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Anedoctal evidence regarding the 10% rule in Texas is often unreliable. For instance, Jane Kim could gain automatic admission at Texas A&M, just as everyone who scored above 1300 on the -old- SAT.
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<p>Xiggi -- that was a direct quote from the Daily Texan. It's posted on the internet on the UT site. It went on to say she declined UTD, went to Austin CC and later transferred to UT. That is a common path for students that just absolutely "have" to be in Austin. And she obviously didn't want to be an Aggie. You will find that many people will be attached to either A&M or UT and will not consider the other at any cost.</p>
<p>Wiz -- ECs do not have to be school sponsored. If you want to stand out, do something the schools don't offer. Everyone has those.</p>
<p>Wiz, posts on a board never carry the entire meaning of a statement. </p>
<p>There are smart kids, overachievers, underachievers, unchallenged, and overwhelmed students at virtually all schools in the country. I am sure that rural schools in Central Texas have produced their share of brilliant students ove the years. However, my remark was directed at schools that are known for having watered down programs that are far from competitive and are not challenging their students to excel. </p>
<p>Speaking about idiots, it seems to be the national passtime to call Texans bumbling fools or idiots. However, I prefer to think that there is a fine line between a Texan and an idiot ... it's called the Red River. :)</p>
<p>"You will find that many people will be attached to either A&M or UT and will not consider the other at any cost."</p>
<p>Thats very true because the two schools are completly different. You either love or you hate A&M......and if your in the middle, I dont think you will like it very much if you attend. Texas Tech on the other hand is a good back up.</p>
<p>hello could you give me some more info</p>
<p>Three year old thread. Still no change in Texas top 10% rule.</p>