<p>I keep seeing Notre Dame’s football revenue from NBC being mentioned. But only SOME of their games are on NBC…there are always several ND football games on ABC and/or other networks.</p>
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They probobably will still call themselves the Big Ten, lol.</p>
<p>“Pac-10 has more prestige than the Big Te(leve)n.”</p>
<p>Schools like WSU, OSU, Oregon, and ASU for example, just don’t generate a lot of prestige in my book.</p>
<p>Hey Dukealum what is wrong with CVivian Stringer?</p>
<p>Schmaltz- all ND home games are on NBC</p>
<p>“What is wrong with CVivian Stringer?”</p>
<p>Her teams are great defensively, but she can’t coach offense worth a flip. Her plan works when her players are better athletes than 90% of the other players in the country. However, when she’s faced against a team that’s just as athletic and a great Xs and Os coach, she will always come up short. Defense can take you very far, but you have to be able to diversify your offense in order to win (being able to score in transition, half-court, post play, three point shooters, players who can create, etc). She usually has one guard who is responsible for generating 50-65% of the team’s offense (Tasha Pointer, Cappie Poindexter, Epiphany Prince).</p>
<p>For all of you who are questioning the financial implications of Notre Dame not joining a conference, I think that you are missing the big picture. You all need to realize that ND’s contract with NBC is not its only source of revenue. Even if ND could, as you suggest, make about $6M more from sharing in the Big Ten’s TV contract, ND would also have to share the rest of its $70M football revenues! Notre Dame will never join a conference for the same reason you should never buy the most expensive house on the block. Everyone around you can only lower your property value. </p>
<p>As long as ND is making more money than the average conference member (and they make more than EVERY Big Ten member), they would be losing money by joining the conference. 100% of ND’s revenue is far, far, far greater than 8% of the combined revenues of Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue, Etc.</p>
<p>In the annual ranking of football-produced revenue conducted by Street & Smith SportsBusiness Journal, the Longhorns earned the top spot in both football ($72.95 million) and overall athletic department revenue ($120.3 million). Ohio State ranked second overall at $118 million and fourth in football at $65.16 million.</p>
<p>The top 10 in total revenue were:</p>
<ol>
<li>Texas - $120.3 million</li>
<li>Ohio State - $118 million</li>
<li>Florida - $106 million</li>
<li>Michigan - $99 million</li>
<li>Wisconsin - $93.5 million</li>
<li>Penn State - $91.6 million</li>
<li>Auburn - $89.3 million</li>
<li>Alabama - $88.9 million</li>
<li>Tennessee - $88.7 million</li>
<li>Oklahoma State - $88.6 million</li>
</ol>
<p>The top 10 in football revenue were:</p>
<ol>
<li>Texas - $72.95 million</li>
<li>Georgia - $67.05 million</li>
<li>Florida - $66.1 million</li>
<li>Ohio State - $65.16 million</li>
<li>Notre Dame - $59.77 million</li>
<li>Auburn - $59.67 million</li>
<li>Michigan - $57.46 million</li>
<li>Alabama - $57.37 million</li>
<li>Penn State - $53.76 million</li>
<li>LSU - $52.68 million</li>
</ol>
<p>Source: [Ohio</a> State football: Buckeyes rank No. 4 when it comes to bringing in football money; Texas No. 1 | Starting Blocks - cleveland.com - cleveland.com](<a href=“http://www.cleveland.com/ohio-sports-blog/index.ssf/2009/06/ohio_state_football_buckeyes_r.html]Ohio”>Ohio State football: Buckeyes rank No. 4 when it comes to bringing in football money; Texas No. 1 - cleveland.com)</p>
<p>**Here is the annual TV revenue for each conference as reported by ESPN’s Outside the Lines last month along with the average for each school:</p>
<p>Big Ten: $242 million ($22 million per school)
SEC: $205 million ($17.08 million per school)
Big 12: $78 million ($6.5 million per school)
ACC: $67 million ($5.58 million per school)
Pac-10: $58 million ($5.8 million per school)
Big East: $13 million for football/$20 million for basketball ($2.8 million per football school)</p>
<p>Like I said before, the reason why Notre Dame will not join the Big 10 has little to do with money. Football programs like Michigan, OSU, PSU and Wisconsin make as much money as Notre Dame in football, even when they must share their revenues with other programs. </p>
<p>The best scenario for the Big 10 would be Texas-Austin. Notre Dame has a great football tradition, but in all other ways, it does not fit the Big 10.</p>
<p>yeah, I don’t think it would be feasible for Texas to leave the Big XII and join the Pac-10 for a smaller share of the pie $ and watch their games being broadcast at 10pm CST. Plus, overall, Big Ten is academically more prestigious than the Pac-10. :p</p>
<p>Would love to see Texas in the Big 10 (and CIC), but I think geographical concerns and political interference will win out in the end. Speaking of the CIC…ironically, the University of Chicago has the honor of handing UT its worse football loss in its history - 68-0… In 1904. </p>
<p>UCBChemEGrad - I have heard how Stanford supposedly nixed UT’s bid for the Pac-10 in the early 90s as the SWC imploded. No source ever mentions the reasons for Stanford’s objections (or even verifies it). Any ideas what Stanford’s rationale was at the time? I know the Big 10 had just added Penn State and wasn’t interested in additional expansion yet, but I’ve never understood why Stanford would have objected. Academically, UT was clearly stronger than the bottom half of the Pac-10 (and the NRC rankings were actually NEW back then! LOL). Robert Berhdahl, the future chancellor of Berkeley and current president of the AAU, was UT’s president at the time and has spoken of UT’s desire to be associated academically with the universities of the Big 10 and Pac 10. Texas’ football program was at its nadir at that point, so I can’t imagine it was a concern of too much emphasis on athletics. Football graduation rates weren’t (and still aren’t) stellar, so that’s one possibility. I would like to think it wasn’t just some sort of anti-Texas bias. Maybe Stanford was just concerned Texas meant bringing along Texas A&M. 
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<p>Actually, Texas A&M is a respected research university in its own right (even has a larger research budget than Texas) and wouldn’t be a bad addition for the Big 10 if it had to come along with UT as some sort of political deal. There would be a little more culture shock with it, though!</p>
<p>I don’t think the Pac-10 would be a bad fit for UT either… and alumni would certainly prefer November and December games in Pac 10 locations! But overall, I think the Big 10 brings more $ opportunity and top-to-bottom academic prestige. The Pac-10 is a bit top heavy in that regard.</p>
<p>JWT, I think you’ve read the same articles I did. I believe it mentioned something about 'furd and UT being strong competitors in certain sports. Stanford didn’t want to have to compete against the Longhorns. I think times have changed now…the era of big conferences means big money and more leverage in negotiating television deals. Conference members may be more receptive these days.</p>
<p>I’ve also read that the Big Ten may be looking to add 3 members to make a 14-team super conference. Texas, Texas A&M, and Pitt would be viable candidates and seriously consider if the Big Ten came knocking on their doors…(UT’s traditional rivalry with OU be damned).</p>
<p>“(UT’s traditional rivalry with OU be damned).” They still could play each other every year in a non-conference game.</p>
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Wouldn’t it be better to be associated among the best than a group of equals? ;)</p>
<p>^all i know is i don’t wanna be assoicated among the most broke…how’s your taxed dollars doing, ucb? ;)</p>
<p>^ doing well, sam. 2009 was the first full year I could write off my mortgage interest…even with 9 deductions I still got a huge refund. :P</p>
<p>Is 'furd planning to ditch the Pac-10? Any special insight, sam?</p>
<p>Wouldn’t it be better to be associated among the best than a group of equals?</p>
<p>Not all of the schools in the Big Ten are equals, as you well know. It’s just that the conference is not half loaded with mediocre state schools. I’d say from top to bottom the ACC is more like the Big Ten than the Pac 10.</p>
<p>Brey: Notre Dame hoops nearly joined Big Ten</p>
<p>January 7, 2010 12:06 PM
By Teddy Greenstein</p>
<p>Coach Mike Brey reflected Thursday on an interesting 48-hour period in Notre Dame basketball: In November 2003, then-Irish athletic director Kevin White told him that Notre Dame was on the cusp of joining the Big Ten.</p>
<p>“He told me to be prepared; we were going to the Big Ten.” Brey said. "Obviously, that decision changed in the 11th hour, but he was preparing me for that.</p>
<p>“As I was driving to practice that day, I was thinking: OK, what does that mean for our recruiting base? Now I don’t even think about that. We are in the Big East and we’re going to be in the Big East for a while and, obviously, independent football is a very, very important part of the fabric of this place. So as that stays the same, our Olympic sports and basketball will stay in the Big East. But for about a 48-hour window, I thought really hard about that.”</p>
<p>Was Brey more excited or worried about the potential move?</p>
<p>“Both.” he said. "There was anxiety: Gosh, what does that mean to our Eastern connections? We’ve recruited pretty well in that corridor from (Washington) D.C. to Boston. Will we have any kind of clout there if we’re playing in the Big Ten?</p>
<p>"And style of play: Would we be different from the Big Ten teams? Is that league a little more half-court (based), a little more possession by possession? You were thinking: What would be your niche? But first I was thinking: Where are we going to get players?</p>
<p>“So it was probably half and half – excitement about the challenge and anxiety on the other side.”</p>
<p>Source: [Brey:</a> Notre Dame hoops nearly joined Big Ten - Chicago Breaking Sports](<a href=“BREAKING 100 – Chicago Tribune”>BREAKING 100 – Chicago Tribune)</p>
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<p>The Irish are not invincible!! Time to get off their high horses!! :D</p>
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<p>It would help if you got the “big picture” w/ regard to college sports finances.</p>
<p>While schools within conferences share TV revenues (depending on the conf., it can be evenly split or split in disproportionate amounts), they, for the most part (aside from a portion of the gate receipts when they play each other) keep most of the other revenue generated (which is why schools like PSU, dOSU, UM and UW make a lot more than a school like Northwestern).</p>
<p>W/ regard to ND, it’s not so much that it will be behind schools like NU, Purdue or IU in finances, but FB powers like PSU, dOSU, UF, etc. which continue to increase the gap in finances largely due to disparity in TV revenue.</p>