<p>Yes they are inconsistent. However, the point was that getting into Penn isn't just some easy task or a stroll in the park as some posters on this board have alluded to. If it was, trust me my life would be significantly easier (a bunch of folks who had hopes of getting into Penn are now applying for Cornell instead for example).</p>
<p>and i'm sure i could find data that is the reverse of what you have posted where Cornell is harder to get into (from my high school, 1 out of 13 or 14 who applied to Cornell got in). I dont have any Penn data from my HS so I can't make a comparison, but you get the point.</p>
<p>I was reinforcing a statement presented by official statistics (Cornell's acceptance rate is less than Penn's) and relating a personal example (that of my school). Any way you cut it Penn is indeed harder than Cornell.</p>
<p>So after 3 pages of needless debate, lets settle it: </p>
<p>Penn is not the "forgotten ivy". Your average American shall have considerable difficulty knowing any Ivy League school other than Harvard/Yale/Pton (not as much as the other two). Your recruiters and grad schools, however, will know what school is good and what isn't. And Penn's reputation (particularly in financial circles) is steller, if not the best.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.prleap.com/printer/38560/%5B/url%5D">http://www.prleap.com/printer/38560/</a></p>
<p>"After researching the top 8 Ivy League schools in the United States we found some interesting facts about admission acceptance rates. Brown is 13.8%, Columbia is 9.6, Harvard is 9.3%, Penn State is 17.7%, Cornell is 24.7%, Dartmouth is 15.4%, Yale is 8.6% and Princeton’s acceptance rate is 10.2%. Of these eight post secondary institutions, the average acceptance percentage rate is 12.4%. Considering that the majority of applicants have the same SAT scores, it becomes even more evident how critical a role an admission letter or statement of purpose is in securing enrolment."</p>
<p>Nice find lol.</p>
<p>this post turned out larger than i expected...;)</p>
<p>Not to sound elitest, but does anyone here actually care if the "average American" doesn't know how great UPenn is?</p>
<p>Let the fools confuse Penn State with UPenn, for the people that matter (namely the students, the professors, and employers), the name means something.</p>
<p>But let's be realistic, the most important thing that you get out of a college education is just that, an education. </p>
<p>Does anyone doubt that UPenn offers a top notch education?...didn't think so...</p>
<p>According to Collegepr0wlr (it would seem that spelling it right is a censored word here) the most "forgotten" Ivies in their surveys are Brown and Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Penn falls somewhere in the middle with Columbia and Cornell as being neither "most recognized" (HYP, duh) or most forgotten.</p>