<p>I have no idea on the truthfulness of the book you mentioned. But the Da Vinci Code falls too much on the side of fiction to actually be taken seriously by people who actually have any idea.</p>
<p>Me_ nailed the facts.</p>
<p>Me_: No, but the treaty is better than no treaty. Don't you agree?</p>
<p>Keep in mind that the United States also gives hundreds of millions of dollars to Palestine in direct aid. Unfortunately, there is much more corruption in Palestine than in Israel so more money gets into a few rich Palestinians instead of into the education, police, medical and other services systems. I strongly believe that if it were not ofr the Islamic terrorists and the massive corruption in the Palestinian state the U.S. and other nations would donate more money to Palestine.</p>
<p>Either way, far too many have already died and there is no reason for the violence to continue.</p>
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<p>Thats breadcrumbs compared to the aid they give to Israel. George Bush's State of the Union speech said it all. If it wasnt for US, Israel would have been in some serious sh1t with the Arabs.</p>
<p>JamesN:
"The Holocaust is overrated."
Absolutely not. The Holocaust will and should forever stand as a warning of humanity's violent nature. It was the Jews sixty years ago. Who's to say that it won't be Muslims or Christians or Jews or Atheists or Hindus or Buddhists decades from now. It is absolutely imperative for us to remember the tragic fate of so many Jews, Muslims, Christians, Atheists, communists, pagans, Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Holocaust so that it will never happen again. </p>
<p>"Christians are evil"
Well, if that isn't overgeneralized I don't know what is. Do you believe that I am evil when I don't even support violence even war and self-defense?</p>
<p>"Its because Jews own the media."
Jews do not own the media. Yes, Jews are more well-represented in the media but not all Jews in the media support the portrayal of Islam as inherently violent. Look at Jon Stewart who always pokes fun at this erroneous belief. Most reporters and news owners are not Jews.</p>
<p>"The Jews could better serve themselves doing good rather than spewing bad media upon a rival religion."
Even if Jews controlled the media, Muslims are the most guilty of giving a bad name to their religion. It is Muslim terrorists who strap on bombs or fly planes into buildings and not Jews. If you don't want Islam to get a bad rap then maybe you and the rest of the Islamic community should do something about it. Blaming the Jews will get you nowhere. Trust me, people have been doing it for millenia.</p>
<p>JamesN: Yes, the U.S. gives more to Israel than Palestine but then again Israel is also the better ally. In addition, how can we put so much money in the hands of a government that can't ensure that all of that money will go to serving the poor instead of expanding the bank accounts of corrupt politicians and terrorists? When the terrorism and corruption end or are seriously diminished I will be all for more direct aid to Palestine.</p>
<p>"Israel is also the better ally"</p>
<p>Israel's actions are comparable to the actions of the palestinians.</p>
<p>It really irk's me that these terrorists are reffered to as "muslims" they're acts are not in accordance with the preachings of Islam. They are a bunch of wacko's. It's such a shame that a minute few give just a bad rep to such a peaceful religion.</p>
<p>guguru: One has the moral right. It's Israel.</p>
<p>The arabs were kind enough to allows the Jews in after the Holocaust. No see what happened. Never trust Jews. </p>
<p>And neverborn, you are really pathetic. Good thing people like you will never come to power. Its people like you who stand in the background who clap for incompetent leaders like Bush like a cheerleader.</p>
<p>"Its people like you who stand in the background who clap for incompetent leaders like Bush like a cheerleader."</p>
<p>lol, bush was a male cheerleader, haha, maybe neverborn will go into power.</p>
<p>Guguru: Regardless of Israel's actions, Israel has always been supportive of American foreign policy and was a great counterweight against the encroachment of Soviet influence in the Arab world. On the other hand, Palestine is much more unstable and less supportive of America. Let's be honest, it is in AMERICA'S best interest to financially support those who support us. Why should we use our tax dollars to support a state that is usually very critical of us and our actions? It just does not make any sense.</p>
<p>P.S. I use "us" to refer to America.</p>
<p>JamesN:
"The arabs were kind enough to allows the Jews in after the Holocaust. No see what happened. Never trust Jews."</p>
<p>No, it was the British that allowed them in and not the Palestinians. After all, it was the British who controlled Palestine and not the Palestinians.</p>
<p>"Guguru: Regardless of Israel's actions, Israel has always been supportive of American foreign policy and was a great counterweight against the encroachment of Soviet influence in the Arab world. On the other hand, Palestine is much more unstable and less supportive of America. Let's be honest, it is in AMERICA'S best interest to financially support those who support us. Why should we use our tax dollars to support a state that is usually very critical of us and our actions? It just does not make any sense.</p>
<p>P.S. I use "us" to refer to America."</p>
<p>I know, I wasn't trying to argue that lol</p>
<p>JamesN: You have yet to prove your unfounded claims against me you made in this thread:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=145145&page=2%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=145145&page=2</a></p>
<p>However, I am not a fan of President Bush. You just make random assumptions, don't you?</p>
<p>I also don't support President Bush or the conservative media (O'Reilley (sp?)). Why does everyone always assume that I am Republican? Remember that I don't support violence so why would I support a president that has started not one war but two wars?</p>
<p>JamesN,</p>
<p>You need to brush up on your history, buddy. It was the British Balfour Declaration that led to most of the widescale Jewish immigration to Palestine. What you also didn't mention is that a large portion of Jews during the late 19th and 20th centuries were opposed to the creation of a Jewish state, on the grounds that Judaism should remain a religion alone.</p>
<p>As for your Jewish control of the media goes...I'll give you another little history lesson, since you badly need it.</p>
<p>When Jews first immigrated to the US, they were excluded from many jobs. One of the few jobs they were allowed, however, was stage. You'll note that many of the early Vaudevillians were Jewish. This is because stage still had a bit of an air of being "dirty." But, who cares about Jews on stage, since it's a dirty job for "Dirty Jews." This means that Jews became unintentionally entrenched in the stage, and by proxy, the film industry. This is much like Jewish banking arising because of the Church decrees against usury (with the exception of the Jews.)</p>
<p>Before you go off on any anti-Jewish rants, at least try to know why the Jews are and how they got there.</p>
<p>UCLAri: Well said but I should warn you that JamesN's statements should not be regarded seriously. He has obviously proven himself to be a bigot against everyone except for his precious Muslims. It's funny that he argues against overgeneralization of Islam but yet he himself calls all Christians "evil" and says that the Holocaust is "overrated".</p>
<p>Some of you are fighting a pointless battle that will do nothing but continue to cycle. Some people's opinions are deeply embedded into them from years of belief, a ten minute arguement with a bunch of random people online will not affect the person. Just 'walk' away.</p>
<p>Jesminder,</p>
<p>I don't believe in walking away when I believe that something good can be done.</p>