<p>@MSauce, you are right, it is actual yield versus anticipated yield. We’ll find if you’re right about Harvard soon enough.</p>
<p>MSauce, I agree with you entirely. Change in yield NOT a high yield determines whether a school goes to its waitlist. But I have to disagree with your third paragraph; HYPS is not a closed system of colleges. And since it is an open system, other colleges’ policies can affect Harvard’s yield. Harvard’s yield can also be affected by abnormalities in this year’s class. For example, if twice as many international students were admitted this year compared to last year and international students’ yield was 50% as opposed to Harvard’s normal yield of 76-80%, then overall yield will be affected. I understand that Harvard probably tried to make room for these changes in its models, but no model is perfect.</p>
<p>I stick by my prediction of around 70 (I think that is what I said) accepted off the waitlist! </p>
<p>-Optimism!</p>
<p>Hey I’m a Harvard waitlistee too and matriculated at Penn.</p>
<p>Stanford also goes to its waitlist late, and says that “later this month” it will take a small number (20-30). I have two friends on the Stanford waitlist who have paid their Harvard deposit but will give up their spots at H if admitted to Stanford. One of them got a major award after decisions came out so may have a good shot at S. I guess everything will shake out by the end of the month.</p>
<p>btw qizixite, “berkley” is actually spelled “berkeley” 
thanks for making the list!</p>
<p>otsuns: I changed all of the typos immediately! Thanks!</p>
<p>I’m going to Hillsdale College. It’s a small school in Michigan.
Good luck to all you AP Physics types tomorrow!</p>
<p>From the people I know, I think that the aura of prestige of the HYPS schools has been falling somewhat. I know people whose first choices were other schools (i.e. Columbia, Penn, WashU, Duke, etc) even though they applied to Harvard. Maybe the recent national emphasis on fit over prestige will have a long-term effect on these schools’ yields (in addition to the increasing ease of applying to many schools). So I don’t think we can garner anything at all from Yale and Princeton taking many kids off their own waitlists.</p>
<p>And good luck to all the Bio/Physics B/Physics C test takers tomorrow. Bio and Physics B were both easier than I or my friends were expecting when we took them, so hopefully y’all will get a good test too. I’m doing both physics c tests; and I’m starting to get tired of all these ap tests this year.</p>
<p>…there is no way that it would drop to 66%…</p>
<p>No, it wouldn’t drop that low. That’s kind of a random statement.</p>
<p>Ewho; I think your methodology on the cross admit thread is amazingly flawed but if you want to cite a source or methodology for your 66% number I would be happy to respond.</p>
<p>Also wish all you AP Bio/Physics people good luck tomorrow. Please kick the AP Bio tests butt. I have a personal grudge against that test, only AP test I didn’t get a 5 on…sure, I could accept responsibility for the fact that I didn’t pick up a review book once, but I’d rather grumble and curse the college board lol</p>
<p>So, pray to whatever deity/atheistic power-of-self entity you prefer that the yield is released tomorrow. I am going completely insane. If I’m conscious, chances are I am obsessing over Harvard. Probably good 80% of the time. First thought in my head when I wake, last when I go to sleep. Driving me nuts. (And for all that, I think today was the first time I spared any thought to my other wait list since sending in my response…that’s what happens when you’re absolute first choice by several hundred light years wait lists you and your second choice flat-out rejects you I suppose lol)</p>
<p>@gcall, I know exactly how you feel. Rejected by my top choice (Princeton), waitlisted at my second choice (Harvard), and rejected from #3 and #4 (Yale and Penn).</p>
<p>Yeah I have a similar situation. Rejected at my top choice (Princeton), waitlisted at my second choice and third choices (Harvard and MIT), rejected at fourth (Stanford), and rejected at my choice that was kindof tied for fifth (Brown). I got into the other one that was tied for fifth (JHU), but waitlisted at my next choice (CalTech). March up through now has been a rough time for me.</p>
<p>EDIT: You know what sucks? The interviews have so little bearing on admissions decisions, and that’s where I shine. A friend who knows my Brown interviewer said that the interviewer wouldn’t stop talking about me and thought I would get in for sure. It’s really disappointing to ‘wow’ the interviewers and then get back results such as the above. Nevertheless, I like JHU a lot, so I can’t complain :).</p>
<p>cicero: regarding your edit, I know exactly what you are talking about. If I sit down and chat with someone it is much easier to convey all those aspects which should be advantageous in the college admission process, but when it comes to disjointed Common apps, extracurricular lists, prompts, etc. I can’t seem to adequately convey who I am. It is really frustrating. I know the daughter of my harvard interviewer and she said the same thing as your friend, but now I am on the god forsaken waitlist!</p>
<p>@Cicero Also in regards to your edit:</p>
<p>I completely agree. My interview with the Harvard alumn was better than could ever be hoped for. When I met her, she was talking with one of my friends, and apparently that interview only went for 30 minutes. Mine went for almost two hours. The interviewer is an art history professor, and her husband is a history professor–I want to be a history professor and am one of only 7 kids in my AP Art history class, needless to say we got along amazingly. Plus I had a rec. letter from my Harvard history professor from last summer, but still just waitlisted…the whole admissions process is annoying and confusing as hell</p>
<p>EDIT: I apologize that I am basically using this as an opportunity to vent my frustrations, but honestly if I didn’t do so every now and again, I’d probably be in a straight jacket right about now</p>
<p>Not to put a damper on this interview discussion, but they really just can’t give it too much weight because it is unstandardized, biased (if there are similar interests), and significantly based on personality, which isn’t the most important factor in the admissions process. My interview was pretty amazing too (gcall, mine also went like 2 or 3 times as long), but my interviewer made it clear to me that her say would have little bearing, which I think more interviewers should take care to emphasize.</p>
<p>what time does the crimson get published tomorrow? after mid night?</p>
<p>Haha don’t worry about it. This is the place to vent, because we are all in the same situation. I just wish the system was a bit more balanced. If I ran things, I would make it so there were no indications of race or location or legacy on the application when read by admissions officers. That way affirmative action/special admission for certain groups would be eliminated. Then, I would give the interviews more substance and weight. Similar to the interviews conducted for UK universities. Also, I think that a meaningful personal statement, in addition to the regular creative essay, would be a nice thing to have. All I want is more balance in the system.</p>
<p>Boggler: isn’t the essay the same way? There’s no standardized topic or standardized manner in which it should be written. The essay is biased in a sense, since you cannot convey everything about yourself in one essay, and not every officer will read your essay, so there is some personality bias in that as well. On another interview-related note, I think that interviews should only be offered to people that make it past the first hurdle in the admissions process.</p>