<p>What I said was that the number who were admitted EA and EA deferred (919) was equivalent to 70% of the eventual size of the Class of 2008 (1,308).</p>
<p>I would estimate that a little over 85% of the EA and EA deferreds who were admitted ended up enrolling - perhaps 782.</p>
<p>This means that 60% of the Class of 2008 were applicants to the EA pool, and 40% were applicants to the RD pool.</p>
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<p>At Harvard, by way of comparison, I estimate that the number admitted EA and EA deferred (1,032) was equivalent to 63% of the eventual class size (1,638).</p>
<p>Assuming an 88% yield from this group, I'd estimate that 908 of them matriculated - constituting 55% of the Class of 2008.</p>
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<p>I do not know the number of ED deferreds accepted at Princeton, but from unsubstantiated guesses I've heard, I estimate that upwards of 2/3 of the Princeton Class of 2008 were either ED admits or ED-deferreds admitted later, and that only 1/3 of the class came from the RD pool.</p>
<p>What you said exactly was "70% of those admitted to Yale were either EA or EA deferred" and I showed how that is incorrect (see your subject line). </p>
<p>Also, you cannot assume that Yale has the same yield rate on EA deferreds as EA admits. </p>
<p>As you see, lindselujh was deferred/accepted and got into Princeton and Harvard...suburbian was deferred/accepted and got into Princeton and Harvard...both are probably going to Harvard. </p>
<p>being deferred/accepted does not have the same yield. You have no facts to base your assumption on that yield. </p>
<p>The published data for EA yield only encompasses those admitted EA in the EA round.</p>
<p>Let me explain: For the Class of 2008, Yale had an EA yield of about 88%, while Harvard's EA yield was around 91%. Yale's overall RD yield - including the EA deferred's - was about 56%. The overall RD yield at Harvard was around 71%. Given past RD yield numbers, and taking into account the number of EA deferreds admitted at each school, I estimate the EA deferred yield at 75% at Yale, and 82% at Harvard. Thus the overall yield on people who applied EA was about 85% at Yale, and 88% at Harvard.</p>
<p>As previously stated, 60% of the 2008 matriculants at Yale came originally from the EA pool, and 55% of the 2008 matriculants at Harvard came from the EA pool.</p>
<p>Using the same analysis, but lees complete data, I estimate that 66% of the Class of 2008 at Princeton came originally from the ED pool. In past years, I suspect this percentage may have been even higher. That Princeton admitted more "true" RD applicants than the did in the Hargadon era helps explain the large drop in the RD yield for the Class of 2008.</p>
<p>about 15-20 kids will be/have been taken off the waitlist this year....that is out of a pool of "many hundreds of waitlisted kids"...as a Harvard rep told me on my defferal acception phone call a couple of hours ago
btw, was anyone else offered a chance to take part in the class of 2010? kind of a strange offer</p>
<p>apple - they're probably going to stick to around 15. i would guess. they had an insane yield rate thanks to kids like me (who never even thought about going to Harvard.. until I visited New Haven and Princeton decided to only give 30% A's in the future)</p>
<p>May be I'll apply again as a transfer. How many do they usually accept?</p>
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<p>Over the last eight years, they've admitted between 30 and 70 per year out of ~1200 applicants. It's pretty brutal. If you were waitlisted at Harvard, I'm sure you're going to a great college...just focus on getting everything you can out of that experience, and maybe think about Harvard for grad school. Transferring is worthwhile only if your first college is a bad fit.</p>
<p>You're right that I was rather rude, and my apologies for that lack of decorum. But it's really pretty depressing to see an error of that magnitude from an apparent Harvard acceptee. Misspelling "deferral" is forgiveable, but coupling it with a non-existant word usage was just a bit too much for me.</p>
<p>So wait...to confirm -- Billabonging -- you were accepted off Harvard's waitlist today? </p>
<p>(or were you saying they called and offered you guaranteed admission in 2010? OR are you an acceptee choosing to defer admission for one year???)</p>
<p>I didn't know Harvard gave guaranteed admission to future classes unless you were admitted outright and chose to defer...hmm sounds fishy to me but oh well, better than nothing!</p>
<p>While offering admission to the following years class to a wait-listed student would be highly unusual, such an offer is reported in The Gatekeepers by Jacques Steinberg. Published in 2002, this book describes a year in the admissions office at Wesleyan. As I recall, what happened was that fewer than the usual number of admitted students requested to defer their enrollment to the following year. Colleges usually begin their admissions work in the fall with a few spaces in the class filled by students from the previous year who requested deferments of their admission. But because of the low deferment rate at Wesleyan that year, these spaces were not going to be taken, and the committee made the decision to offer them to some of the wait-listed students.</p>
<p>Of course this happened several years ago, and was at Wesleyan not Harvard. While it seems more plausible that Billabonging called Harvard to defer his admission, and incidentally got info on the wait list scene, his other posts describe having to make a choice between Cornell and Northwestern. Hmmm </p>