The "Mosque" at "Ground Zero"

<p>^ Whoa, whoa, whoa, are you kidding me?</p>

<p>Most people don’t want it so it shouldn’t happen? </p>

<p>That is an incredibly stupid argument, sorry. </p>

<p>When interracial marriage was legalized, 95% of America was against it. Should we have just listened to the American people?</p>

<p>Same with desegregation. </p>

<p>The majority of America never wanted the NAACP when it first came into being, so is that sufficient reason to deny their existence?</p>

<p>The majority of America does not want an atheist in office, so does that mean we make a religion requirement to run for office?</p>

<p>The majority of people didn’t want women to vote, so should that have stayed illegal? </p>

<p>I can go on and on. The majority does not overrule the constitution.</p>

<p>Okay, you made your point. No one is overruling the constitution though.</p>

<p>^ My point was that just because the majority doesn’t want something, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t happen. That simple.</p>

<p>True. But the majority of people who didn’t want women to vote and the likes were opposing these equality laws for all the wrong reasons - their hearts weren’t right. The people opposing this mosque are good and are still hurt by the attacks.</p>

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<p>What? lol okay then.</p>

<p>^^ Who are you to say what is right and what is wrong?</p>

<p>It is your opinion. </p>

<p>You can say NOW that you BELIEVE that they were wrong, but they (those anti-suffrage) and their supporters thought they had their hearts in the right places. They were protecting women from the stress, and keeping it equal so that a man didn’t really have two votes. </p>

<p>In MY opinion, those against this have their hearts in the wrong places because they are opposing equality for all. If they can support a church there and not a mosque then they are not for equality. You cannot blame all Muslims because of what some radicals did. </p>

<p>Just as you cannot blame all conservatives or military people or Christians for what McVeigh did.</p>

<p>Just as you cannot blame all men for the abuse that women have suffered who are in abusive situations. </p>

<p>Just as you cannot blame all Christians/white people for what happened to Native Americans. </p>

<p>Just as you cannot blame all Christians/white people for slavery. </p>

<p>Just as I cannot blame all conservatives/Christians/white people for what my family members went through at the hands of the KKK. </p>

<p>Just as I cannot blame all Germans for what my Jewish and gypsy family went through during the Holocaust.</p>

<p>I think I’ve made my point.</p>

<p>No one or IMO most people are not blaming all Muslims. They don’t like the mosque because the attackers are Muslims and they think that the perpetrators might see this mosque as some sort of victory.</p>

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Then they are misinformed (those who are calling it a victory mosque). </p>

<p>And yes, many (not all, or even necessarily a majority) people who are against this mosque do blame all Muslims. </p>

<p>And IMO, you cannot be for equality, and I’ll say it again, if you can support a church there but not a mosque. IMO you are spitting on the graves of those who died if one gives in to the fear and hatred that the terrorists intended to cause.</p>

<p>Also, opposition for this mosque is not all about religion. The funding is still an issue and it’s not like Imam Rauf is above receiving money from shady radicals.</p>

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Then that is a different issue entirely.
I am talking about the principle of letting a mosque or a community center be there.</p>

<p>Daisy Khan is actually running this thing. </p>

<p>If funding issues come out, then I will address that at that time.</p>

<p>Daisy Khan is running her mouth. I do not appreciate her basically calling me a bigot and that I have Islamaphobia. There is nothing wrong with Muslims but I still don’t agree with the mosque being built.</p>

<p>Woah, woah romanigypsy, i think u r taking this way too far. We obviously agree that not alll muslims are responsible for this, of course not. But sometimes u cant always be" politicaly correct". Its called common sense.</p>

<p>^Give me a specific example of how I am taking this too far. </p>

<p>And no, not everyone obviously agrees. </p>

<p>I say common sense is to not oppose this based on their religious affiliation. I don’t think it’s a PC issue.</p>

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Actually, I am not anti-faith. I was Catholic for more than half of my life. And I have a different religion now. </p>

<p>In his early life, he was a Roman Catholic. I did not realize that he had expressed his agnosticism in a letter from prison later in life. However, in fairness, I am unsure of whether or not that letter was ever made public, and if it was known to anyone or anything other than in a British newspaper. </p>

<p>And if you read my post carefully, I said that I do NOT blame all Christians, despite the fact that those acts were committed by Christians. </p>

<p>But way to misconstrue my message ;).</p>

<p>Let’s put it at this. The location of the COMMUNITY CENTER is not at Ground Zero.
What are the outcries for? They believe an Islamic affiliated building 4-5 blocks away from GZ is sacrilege. There’s nothing legally wrong here, I can barely find a moral issue.</p>

<p>It is completely legal. It is their right to build it, I just disagree with it. I think it was done with horrible judgement by the Imam Rauf and Daisy Khan.</p>

<p>The center being built are by Sufi Muslims, and they practice love, peace and spiritualism. Its more “mystical”. Politicians counter-arguing saying why don’t we build Christians churches in Saudi Arabia, must remember that the country is ruled as a theocracy, and many don’t have the same religious freedoms as we do. The people who are planning to build it have a right to since it is protected by the first amendment. We live in a religiously un-oppressed country, so why are we denying the rights for a group to practice their religion? Sounds very hypocritical to me. Another thing is. Muslims as a whole aren’t terrorist and extremist like Al-Qaeda, and the Taliban. So, the media needs to stop generalizing. Like every monotheistic religion they believe in peace and love. But, some few take it to far and become ignorant, and hurt others in the process. </p>

<p>I was against it at first, but thinking long and hard. I now support it.</p>

<p>^It’s illegal to go to Mass in Saudi Arabia, for example. </p>

<p>They have a right but should not exercise that right.</p>

<p>It’s plain and simple: Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion</p>

<p>The only people against it (<em>cough</em> FOX NEWS + friends) defend the constitution only when it is convenient for them.</p>

<p>If this mosque is not allowed to be built, it would go against one of the main reasons America came into being anyways. Anyone remember the first settlers fleeing England for their religious freedom?</p>

<p>PS: For the people saying its too close to ground zero… are we really going to have a muslim-free zone everywhere? THeres already a mosque at the pentagon.</p>

<p>Fox News say they have the RIGHT to build because of the 1st amendment. Can they or can they not build the mosque is not the argument. It is if building it is WISE.</p>