<p>The “mosque” had been slated for construction as long ago as December 2009. Why do we care anymore?</p>
<p>Because people in this country love rehashing old "issues’ which weren’t really issues at all.</p>
<p>Because the media loves a controversial story. And nobody really noticed before. </p>
<p>I still hold that while they certainly have the right, should they do it? Not really. If it is perceived as offensive, which the media has ensured most Americans do, than why offend? Why not move a few blocks?</p>
<p>Why should they have to?</p>
<p>I can guarantee you that if you took a poll of people in America- they wouldn’t want a place of worship for my religion anywhere near them. Does that mean I don’t have the right to build one?</p>
<p>The will of the majority does not dictate the rights or privileges of the minority. </p>
<p>Oh and PS: even if it was “moved a few blocks”, a majority of the population would still probably be against it. No one can give a straight answer of “how far is far enough”.</p>
<p>They died protecting Uncle Sam’s interest, Romani. From what I can read about you, you look well versed in History. Haven’t you noticed that Uncle Sam has to make off with something eventually from every war?</p>
<p>If Iraq was a true threat to a country as powerful as the United States, Saddam’s forces wouldn’t fall in less than a week.</p>
<p>@Circular: Sharia law is the sacred law of Islam that uses the Quran and verified hadiths as the constitution.</p>
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<p>Oh I am not disagreeing with you. I am vehemently opposed to this occupation. It’s not even a war. </p>
<p>But the truth is that a member of my family was killed by Islamic extremists. I lost a member of my family the same as families did on 9/11. But I will not spit on the graves of my brother-in-law, my grandfather, my uncle, or any one else who has fought in/ died in war/defending my country by giving in to fear and hate.</p>
<p>Romani, I’m sad to hear that a member of your family died. But it is not helpful to anybody if the Muslims adamantly refuse to move simply out of respect. It is actually detrimental to their image in this nation. As I have pointed out earlier, the perception created and nurtured by the media is incorrect factually. I am actually supporting their right to build. I merely questioned if common sense would allow them to build in that location and not a few blocks away. And you are probably right in saying that would not solve anything. That is the fault of the media and ignorant fundamentalist Americans of which I am not. </p>
<p>But I won’t deal in hypothetical situations. No such poll of Americans exists (at least, that I know of). </p>
<p>This is my last word on the issue: while they certainly have every right to build a center there, I think they should not out of respect because of the perception created by a sensationalistic media that has inflamed many. In that mindset they should keep the center a respectful distance from Ground Zero to avoid offending any who had family who died in 9/11.</p>
<p>Exactly. I don’t care how many Muslims allegedly died in 9/11. It’s a matter of sensitivity, not civil liberties. They don’t HAVE to move, but if they have any shred of human decency or regard for the Americans they claim to love so much, they would. Let’s see…</p>
<p>Once again, it is disrespectful to make them move simply because people who shared their religion happened to perform a heinous act nearby. </p>
<p>It is disrespectful to forget that Muslims also died and they have a right to worship close to the site where their family members died. </p>
<p>It is not harming anyone by being there, but the protests are creating even more Islamophobia than there already is. </p>
<p>I will repeat that as many times as I have to.</p>
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<p>No. They have decency. And it is AMERICAN decency to let them worship when and where they please.</p>
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<p>No one is saying MAKE them move. But they should decide, on their own, that it’s not worth it to hurt so many innocent people so that they can celebrate their religious beliefs. The scars of the 9/11 tragedy have not healed yet, and people are still suffering. You live in Michigan so you are removed from it, but I live in NYC and the pain and hurt that people feel are still poignant. The mosque builders know this, and they are moving on anyway to bulldoze over the rights and feelings of a majority of NYC citizens and the victims of the terrorist attacks. That is as callous and hateful an attitude as anything the jihadis have expressed.</p>
<p>^ You misunderstand what I mean by make. </p>
<p>I do not mean legally- since legally no one has a leg to stand on with this issue. </p>
<p>I meant make with protests and hate filled speeches, etc. </p>
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<p>You’re right. I live away from GZ. But don’t you DARE accuse me of not having pain from this tragedy and the subsequent events that occurred because of this tragedy.</p>
<p>^Romani, he was not. Your grief does not all you to disregard what you have called the same grief of thousands of others. If I was building the center, if even a single 9/11 victim felt offended by it, then I would move the center out of respect for my fellow man. Since you have gone through what the families of 9/11 and every dead American have gone through, can you at least sympathize with them?</p>
<p>I do sympathize with them, for the thousandth time. </p>
<p>But I think you are spitting on their graves to give in to the hate that the terrorists wanted us to experience. They WANTED to drive apart America and make us forget the ideals that we are founded on. To give IN to that desire does a grave disservice to all of those killed.</p>
<p>I think the terrorists would love to have this mosque built. In their heads, it will be seen as a victory of some sort. Let’s do them a disservice and not build it.</p>
<p>^^I disagree with you about how to show respect. I applaud you for sticking to your principles (that I agree with, BTW, except where you bash Catholicism), but I don’t understand why they cannot simply move a few blocks and have their center whilst simultaneously not hurting those affected. We are at an impasse. Ah well. </p>
<p>^I somewhat agree with this. Many Islamic radicals would see this as a great triumph and a sign of American weakness. Not that they are correct, but they will.</p>
<p>Night all.</p>
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No the terrorists are most likely enjoying the Islamophobia they have caused and the terror that has gripped America. </p>
<p>Oh, and by the way, terrorists want Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf (the man behind the mosque) dead because he is too liberal.</p>
<p>This country was built on the dreams of people wanting freedom and tolerance. Though forcing the community center to move isn’t legal, the outcry of the prejudiced masses is just as morally reprehensible. We are, or should be, a country where people are accepted as AMERICANS, regardless of their color, ideas or religion. I find it disheartening, appalling and DISGUSTING that Americans are acting in such a manner. On 9/11, thousands of people essentially died because of the FREEDOM of their country. Shall we now sink to the level of those terrible men THAT WERE REJECTED BY THE MUSLIM COMMUNITY by harboring ignorant xenophobia? Shall we now repress these people? Make them feel unwelcome by the people of the country they came to [or were born in]?</p>
<p>When did this cease to be the land of the free and the home of the brave?</p>
<p>No one is making Muslims feel unwelcome. Who is repressing them? Moderate Muslims oppose this mosque too. You’re not going to suggest their repressing themselves, are you.</p>
<p>I haven’t read any of this thread and I am sure this has been mentioned already but;</p>
<p>1) It’s not a mosque
2) It’s not at ground zero
3) The muslim religion didn’t call the attack, and muslims died as well.</p>
<p>Lastly, if I hear one more person say “well then we should get to build a church at Mecca,” I will literally punch the day lights out of you. The whole point is we are supposed to be more tolerant than any country, since when do we hold our selves to the same standards as the middle east?</p>
<p>and I’m not sure if this has been posted but… lawls will ensue.
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