<p>Being a girl is actually a hook for MIT because girls rarely ever go into engineering or sciences, etc. unless they’re becoming doctors. Also, she had an internship with some nobel prize winner and is doing IMO I think, so that’s why. You know people do get accepted to MIT. You really have to be outstanding though. Go check otu the MIT accpetances thread. None of our stats compare to those, so it’s not all about citizenshi and what not. Also, everyone here asks for aid, so you have to be extraordinarily special to be accepted with aid.</p>
<p>The more I read your discussions, the more I’m beginning to believe that not being a US National, or a ‘mathlete’ as someone here aptly put it is a huge disadvantage.</p>
<p>Also about the schools…it just doesn’t make sense personally. Was I really fooled into thinking the Ivy League admissions process was as transparent and ‘holistic’ as they put it out to be?</p>
<p>Any comments anyone. I’m not trying to discuss the advantages of being a US national, or initiate that they’re at an unfair advantage. Instead, I’m trying to look at the other side. Is there no REAL hope for anyone else? Any other strenghts or positive aspects? Anyone knows of any admits as such?</p>
<p>Ok, basically it is hollistic but obviously they follow a procedure. What they really care about is good grades, which is a given. Everyone should have a 2250+ as a requisite for applying to ivies. On top of that, the most important thing they look at is achievement in one certain field or your achievements for your passion. Doesn’t matter what the field is. Because that achievement is what serves as evidence that if you can be successful at such a young age, then it shouldn’t be a problem later on, so they select students that are sure shots for being successes. There is a reason everyone that goes to an ivy is always successful. And for every college, there are different hooks. That’s what sets them apart. E.g for MIT being a mathlete is a plus. For Caltech, being a lower minority is a plus. For Brown, havign extreme passion and liberalness is a plus, etc. etc. See my point? It’s all pretty straight forward, but I too figured all this out after at least year of college confidential and the admissions process.</p>
<p>@gtfotu well now that when you mentioned that its a hook, it kinda explain that why do every year there’s a female acceptance to MIT from here, no offense to anyone. and Yes, I know exactly that you need to stand out from the rest of the application pool to have any real chances of getting into MIT or lets say any good University, you yet again mistook what I was trying to say.</p>
<p>Look at it from this point. EVERYONE who applies to ivies, etc. that has a chance of being accepted has a 2250+, so having a 2300 doesn’t really make you distinct from any other applicant. You’re just one of the thousands that apply, so you can well imagine how hard it is to get in a place like that. That’s why the way you select your colleges is very important. A lot of people only apply to ivies and get rejected from all and end up nowhere. I mean, people should apply according to their stats. Anyway, no one should give up their dreams of applying to ivies, though.</p>
<p>Lol, no, no. I was just telling my view to clarify confusion and make people feel better about themselves as to why they were not admitted. I know how disappointing it is after you do your utmost, so I just want to reassure everyone that hope is not lost and you are all gems. You’re not worthless. Something good will come about. All other colleges have yet to send their letters to you guys, so don’t worry, though I know to start off with rejection could be painful. =)</p>
<p>Gtfotu I’m in the IMO training with your friend and I’m sure someone there mentioned that she had an American nationality but anyways she was a very strong applicant and deserves her acceptance.</p>
<p>To the people who think it’s highly unfair for us being discriminated against just because we’re not US nationals - think about children who’re not guaranteed basic education just because of the place they were born in. If you applied to MIT, Harvard, or indeed anywhere abroad, chances are you studied in one of the most prominent schools of our country, and that’s more than enough reason to be grateful. No, I won’t be going to MIT, but I trust the admissions process enough to believe it was probably not the best place for me, then. </p>
<p>Besides, dozens of kids of Pakistan are accepted all over the world (even to the US) and they are not all citizens. Call me crazy 
but I strongly believe everything happens for the best. College admissions are not the end of the road. Don’t let admissions committees judge you who are as people. (And indeed, they’re not trying to, but the whole process makes it seem like they are!) It doesn’t really matter where you go; it’s what you do when you get there. So keep your hopes up!</p>
<p>Yes I am awesome at cheesy platitudinous rants (and SAT words apparently) :D</p>
<p>InVeritas, what is her name?</p>
<p>@leo118 Yeah bad news. Thanks though! :)</p>
<p>@Suhail93- I think you put it just right, and I completely agree with you. Frankly, I’m glad I even got the opportunity to set my heights so high. </p>
<p>Never mind though, feel like my question’s kinda answered.</p>
<p>@cool 39- what science extra curriculars? I did a bit of ARSSDC but had to pull out due to a clash of dates with another event.</p>
<p>@Arsalh- haha, not really. I think someone from Karachi has the same score. Plus, a kid from my class scored a perfect 2400. too bad he’s only applying to the UAE and KSA.</p>
<p>2390’s and 2400’s … damn … any ‘average’ person here ?</p>
<p>@ Titan- I may not know squat about the admissions process, but what I do know is- SAT scores are far from an ideal determinant of admission. Even for internationals. If not 2250, then ater 2300 the SAT score is nothing but a number to them- a number that might get you past ‘subcommittees’, but any further? Based on every RD thread I’ve been through- Not.</p>
<p>The mods don’t allow names. But her initials are S.W.</p>
<p>@leo118- completely agree. it can complement an already strong application, or act as the saving grace, to some extent, of a not-so strong one, but on its own, its just one number out of the many colleges consider. </p>
<p>did anyone here apply to UChicago? It’s my 2nd/3rd choice. Decisions come out in a week. O.O
Also, anyone apply to nyuad? I went there for a ‘candidate weekend’ and it does look great.</p>
<p>Yes, yes, I know her. I know for a fact she’s not an american national. Trust me.</p>
<p>Lol, SAT scores come way down in the list of academics. The first thing they see is your transcript. This was said by a Cornell admissions officer. Of course, the “lol” was added by me.</p>
<p>@alibhai, what have you applied to NYUAD for?</p>
<p>I didn’t commit to any major because, frankly, I have no idea of what I would want to end up studying. I hate the fact that Penn and Cornell made me apply to particular schools.</p>