<p>4.0 gpa and 40 MCAT scores...is it possible? anybody ever heard of one? did they get rejected from any medical schools?</p>
<p>Would be pretty near impossible but i'm sure they would reject someone like this if they had no experience in medicine. Getting a 40 on the MCAT would be 99 percentile, not easy by any measure and barely anyone ever gets that high. But a med school can always find flaws, even if you are this perfect. If you sat around and did nothing but study odds are they won't want you.</p>
<p>There are other sites that can provide you with surveys of students with these (or any) stat and their admission success.</p>
<p>Although your question is probably not too serious, it does bring out an important point.</p>
<p>A person with these stats (or even perfect stats) will get rejected by numerous schools. If the applicant were so sure of themselves that they only applied to Harvard and Mayo they could certainly be sitting on the sidelines for a year.</p>
<p>Although seldom seen this way, the education you receive at State MedU will be every bit as thorough as the one you get from Harvard. The US med school process simply does not have sub-standard institutions. The quality of graduate may vary but it won't be because of the education they were provided.</p>
<p>The moral of the story: Apply early and apply often. Nobody is a lock at every school.</p>
<p>Well, a 40 MCAT is not a perfect score. A 45 is a perfect score.</p>
<p>I was just checking out some of the other sites and I saw a guy from Georgia Tech with a 4.0 and a 41 (12/14/15) on the MCAT, and still getting rejected from Harvard, UCSF, Stanford, Mayo, Duke, Yale, North Carolina, Penn, UCSD, Emory, and Wake Forest (but getting into other elite places like Washington University in St. Louis). I see another one with a 4.0 and a 42 (15/14/13) at Cornell, and getting rejected from Cornell, UCSD, and Stanford (but getting into Penn and Washington University). Another one with a 4.0 and a 41 (15/13/13) from UCLA rejected from Mayo, Stanford, UCLA Med, UCDavis, Washington University, and Yale, but got into places like Johns Hopkins and UCSD. </p>
<p>Hence, I agree with gizmo - you need to apply early and often. Even if you have the best stats, it's very much a crapshoot.</p>
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<p>The moral of the story: Apply early and apply often. Nobody is a lock at every school.</p>
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<p>When you say "early," do you mean early decision?</p>
<p>There isnt really "early decision" persay. However you can send in your app as soon as the date arrives when they start accepting apps. That way they look at yours first, and consider you first before anyone else. The later you apply the smaller your chances since more people are vying for your spot then. The earlier then they have tons of spots still open so they might be more likely to take you. But nothing will guarentee it, its pretty much luck.</p>
<p>my mistake...okay so what about 4.0 gpa 45 mcat scores? i thought med school admissions were very grades/scores driven...? have i been misled?</p>
<p>It is driven by scores, but if you only have scores and nothing else then it won't help you. If you do no clubs, and have no volunteer experience, and no research how could you know that you want to do medicine. Sure at some places they will take you for an interview, but you would really need to nail it home about why you did nothing, and they would still wonder. Not much will guarantee you med school, things can improve your odds, but not guarantee it.</p>
<p>Med-school admissions are extremely numbers-oriented in the sense that if you don't have the numbers, you will find it extremely difficult to get admitted even if everything else you have is top-notch. For example, you can have all the volunteering and all the research and all the killer rec's in the world, but if your numbers aren't up to snuff, you will find it difficult to even get an interview. </p>
<p>On the other hand, numbers alone guarantee nothing, as stated before. You can have stellar numbers and still not get into the schools you want to get into, or potentially not get in anywhere at all.</p>
<p>The point is, good numbers do not guarantee admission, because nothing guarantees admission. On the other hand, bad numbers will almost always guarantee rejection.</p>
<p>On a slightly different note, what is it that makes the MCAT so hard? Is it the sheer volume of material, or is it the difficulty of the material?</p>
<p>Both...and add lack of time. Fun! :D</p>
<p>The MCAT is not difficult in the material being covered. First year Physics, first year Bio, and Chem through Organic 1 should suffice as all of the course material required. Some people would find this level of science difficult and the MCAT will dispatch them.</p>
<p>Why then do Science majors not always excel? The MCAT does not ask the question in the format of there being a simple, factual answer. This is the format most science and math majors are used to and it throws them when the exam introduces reasoning and deduction to the facts of science. Simply put, it provides information that is irrelevant to the problem, requires you to make assumptions of fact not in evidence, and provide the best answer to the circumstances presented. </p>
<p>This is one of the reasons that Humanities majors can routinely outperform the Bio geeks. They can read and accept a less than perfect answer without getting themselves bogged down in the fine points and subsequently run out of time.</p>
<p>no way! I know a student with a 4.0 GPA and a 40 on his MCAT. He graduated valedictorian from my high school four years ago and is friends with one of my friend's brother. went to Auburn University and studied something (I'll ask my friend tomorrow for more details) and got a 4.0. Took the MCAT and got a 40 and set the school's record. Going to med school next year. (I'll ask where he's going next year).</p>
<p>Yes, obviously people with scores like that get in, but he obviously did more things then sit and study and do nothing else.</p>
<p>has anyone ever recieved a perfect MCAT score? if so, please post a link proving that this is so. i would conjecture that it has either never been done, or has only been done 2 or 3 times in the past decade or so.</p>
<p>I went to one of the events here at UCSD and one speaker succeeded to get into Harvard with a 38MCAT and a 4.0GPA. He even said that there's approximately 400-450 students receiving MCAT score of 40s. So, it seems possible to get that score. But, I am far from that reach... haha :) (Writing courses are killaz!!)</p>
<p>A perfect MCAT is a 45.</p>
<p>"A perfect MCAT is a 45."</p>
<p>38 is pretty darn good, darn it! ;)</p>
<p>haha, I completely agree Wildflower. A 38 is an amazing score. I was just pointing out that a 45 is a perfect score, not a 40, because the way I read flippilf's last statement, I thought he was asserting that a 40 is a perfect score. :)</p>
<p>got ya' -Just making sure. ;)</p>