The Skiing-Snowboarding Feud

<p>Hear, hear, Theo. </p>

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Has anyone else had the experience of snowboarders being real jerks? It seems that whenever I ski, all the snowboarders are out to get me or something- they cut me off, bump into me, etc etc.

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On this year's family ski trip, the one day we ventured off snowboarder-free Deer Valley to the Park City resort, I was immediately reminded why I dislike boarders. One ran across the back of my skis while I was skiing! Granted, I was doing a run with my p</p>

<p>my only dislike of snowboarders is when the slide down the mountain and ruin nice moguls or randomly place jumps where they hecka shouldn't be. Or when they smoke weed in front of you on the lift and then get really high and screw up getting off.......</p>

<p>but, graci and blu, the beach was awesome yesterday. my pics are up and you can see although it was a bit cloudy (ok, way overcast and misty) we had a great time. <a href="http://photos.yahoo.com/handsonthedash%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://photos.yahoo.com/handsonthedash&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>oh my god, graci, look....GRASS.</p>

<p>lol i like the random pics like "I FEEL PRETTY, OH SO PRETTY". They remind me of the pics I took when my friend and I went to visit Penn - signs that said "US GAS" and a sign in the parking garage on the 4th floor that said "4 REMEMBER"...which was so ridiculous that we actually did remember we'd parked on the 4th floor.</p>

<p>i love the popped collar guy too lol</p>

<p>waaaait...this isn't my GOVERNMENT textbook! my mistake</p>

<p>hahaha. yah, i actually remember that 4 Remember sign from this summer.</p>

<p>hmmm...popped collar guy, i think thats me if its during the presentation lol. unless you mean my friend adam.</p>

<p>the best pic is the Harry Otter sign. oh man, its sooo geniusi. An otter with Harry Potter glasses and his scar!</p>

<p>Hey, j'aime les collaires popp</p>

<p>Out of curiosity, where in norcal do you live, handsonthedash?</p>

<p>haha i didn't say anything AGAINST popped collars, i said i LOVED it!</p>

<p>lol hands, I think it said "Hairy Otter", which is even funnier lol</p>

<p>HAHAHA i think your right blu. its so almost dirty. gosh, gotta love Monterrey.</p>

<p>Theo, I live in the Valley, south of modesto. Its such a commuter city now. You can read about it in my xanga (<a href="http://www.xanga.com/handsonthedash%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.xanga.com/handsonthedash&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p>

<p>LOL wow, I didn't even notice the sexual innuendo there. Weird, as I spent all summer hanging out with some pretty immature guys who can't contain their laughter when someone says "i'm coming" or something lol</p>

<p>uhhhhhh WOW, hands. 10:23 AM? That means that you posted that at 7:23 your time. CCing is for after school...pre-school should be for SLEEPING!</p>

<p>hmm...that was in the morning. Oh yah, i had to be at school early cause of my sister. CCing is for anytime, you should no (even after partying?)</p>

<p>lol <ignoring> :)</ignoring></p>

<p>Alright, as an avid snowboarder, I can't stay quiet. There are a lot of misconceptions concerning snowboarders in this thread.</p>

<p>It IS true that beginning snowboarders are extremely out of control, but that it entirely up to the individual snowboarder. I stayed on the bunny slope until I could go down in control and without falling (2-3 trips). </p>

<p>A lot of people claim that snowboaders are inconsiderate. This, too, is dependent on the person. I was on a lift with a random skiier who slammed his skis into my board and cracked it to the CORE. Luckily Burton is the best snowboard company ever and replaced my board pro bono even though my warentee was up.</p>

<p>The comment about being able to tackle the tough stuff on a snowboard in a few years as opposed to skis, while being somewhat true, is taken out of context. The purpose of a snowboard is NOT to expressly do downhill riding. Snowboarders do not enjoy moguls (unless they're jumping off of them). The purpose of snowboarding is to have a sort of all purpose interface between the ride and the snow. Snowboarders specialize in going off of jumps and going into the halfpipe. Skiiers specialize in going downhill. I think we could both agree that it takes just as long for a snowboarder to master the half pipe as it takes a skiier to master going downhill (and possibly longer because the tricks are endless).</p>

<p>I am a snowboarder and a skiier. I have done both for about 4 years (and snowbladed for 1) and will be sticking with snowboarding. You could compare a snowboard to a sportscar and skis to a luxury vehicle. Both perform great but the snowboard gives you much better interface between yourself and the ground while skis provide for a smooth and efficient ride. </p>

<p>As for the belief that snowboarders always cause problems on the slopes and get in the way, I can say that I am infuriated by the skiiers who take up the whole trail while carelessly skiing back and forth. Perhaps the reason why snowboarders zoom past you agrily is because you kept turning in front of them while they try to pass. It has happened to me many times. </p>

<p>Experienced snowboarders do not push snow down to the bottom of the slope any more than veteran skiiers. New snowboarders slow down with their back edge, while new skiiers slow down with the wedge, just as efficient at pushing snow down. </p>

<p>A blanket statement concerning snowboarding in general is just incorrect. I could not tell you which of the two is better. They are both a ton of fun and both prove to be extremely challenging. A novice snowboarder, while being able to go down difficult slopes, does not go down any better than someone doing the wedge. Your progression of skill is related to your dedication to your sport, not whichever one you pick. Snowboarder do not respect downhill skill as much as they do skill at jumps and terrain park and vice versa with skiiers. </p>

<p>I think everyone should attempt to try both because it is just a completely different experience. I had a little trouble switching from skis to a snowboard for the sole reason of having both my feet attached. But now I couldn't have it any other way.</p>

<p>I thoroughly enjoy snowboarding and highly recommend it to anyone interesting in beginning a winter sport with a ton of versitility. Us snowboaders need to speak up for ourselves and show we aren't the unwashed miscreants that we are commonly believed to be! Good luck with whichever of the two you do!</p>

<p>andy, I wasn't blanketing the snowboarders into generalizations (although it is easy to). I just get annoyed when they run across the back of my skis, and frankly, i've yelled at a couple skiers that have hit me too.</p>

<p>I've tried boarding, but got frustrated not being able to do as much as I already could on skis. Man, I haven't been up once this year cause of stupid math. Anyone who is not going to graduate this spring, this is for you: DON'T TAKE ONLINE MATH UNLESS YOU WANT TO GIVE UP LIKE ALL YOUR FUN TIME.</p>

<p>andy, as the one who probably made the blanket statements about snowboarders, I actually agree with a lot of what you're saying. Beginners in any form are a pain in the @ss, but I guess we were all beginners. I've had fantastic runs skiing with good snowboarders. In deep powder, I really wish I was riding on a fat board rather than my 77 mm waist skis.</p>

<p>In the park and the pipe, however, skiers will match snowboarders trick for trick, jump for jump. Inverted arials are MUCH harder on skis because you are dealing with two long things on your feet rather than one short fat thing. Skis (especially twin tips) are incredible in the park.</p>

<p>I also have to disagree with you when you say that skis are more of a "luxury" vehicle while boards are more like sports cars. I can assure that going down a 40 degree mogul field or carving a super G turn requires just as much "interface" with the snow as doing a trick in the pipe. A good boarder is just as able as a good skier to tackle the same terrain (as long as it doesn't involve moguls).</p>

<p>i can't really take sides on the issue... i ski mainly but whenever i snowboard i always have fun (admittedly i fall quite often) hopefully ill be able to try more snowboarding at dartmouth</p>

<p>besides, the best way to get down the hill (and i'm writing this from my grandmother's dialup account in colorado) isn't skiing or snowboarding, it's....</p>

<p>TELEMARKING.</p>

<p>(or telemarketing, as everyone always thinks i'm saying).
the rhythm you can feel on tele skies is like nothing else.
and i'm saying that as an okay telemarker but an (if i do say so myself) almost expert alpine skier.</p>

<p>then again, maybe i just like telemarking because the lifties all think i'm pretty cool to be a girl on tele skiis...</p>

<p>omg, telemarking is beautiful. I've wanted to try it, but alas, I'm too lazy to learn that too.</p>

<p>I seriously go "wow, that is so cool" everytime I see someone bending and gliding like your type does.</p>

<p>Man, even though Dartmouth is kinda out in the stix, it seems like I'll have sooo much to do!!! I went skiing one time, and I want to learn how to snowboard. I can't wait!!!</p>

<p>I want that Letter damn it!!!</p>

<p>why do you care about "the" letter? you already got a likely lol</p>

<p>Yeah... some of us are still wondering if we'll get a "good news" letter at all!</p>