<p>EmmyBet…you guys went about it well…she had a balanced list and some BFAs and some BAs. The BFAs have chancy odds and so your D’s outcome is in a realistic range. I have a student who has to still hear from two BFAs but has just one BFA acceptance and then five BA acceptances. I have had this happen to a student each year. I agree with you that it is pretty positive as the goal was to land with options and your D and this girl did too. It might be nice to have more BFAs to choose from or even a favorite come through, but they have a BFA option if they want it (and hopefully every school on the list was one they were willing to attend) and have a choice of schools overall. I like your comment that the results may not be fairy tale but still has a happy ending. The fairy tale ending is not that common in this process, though it can happen.</p>
<p>Cross posted with maggie but there is another example of landing with one BFA and having some BA options too. It truly is common in this highly competitive process. And it is still a positive outcome. Could be worse!</p>
<p>My D’s attitude was that if she didn’t get in anywhere by audition, she was going to feel better about embracing a BA, knowing that she had given this process a shot; she was still determined to pursue an acting career, whatever path she took towards it. The audition process itself was so worth it as an experience in and of itself. </p>
<p>The balanced list is so, so key (although my D’s list was much more balanced on the BA side than the BFA). And so is the idea that you can only attend one school at a time…</p>
<p>I applaud each and every one of the students for pursuing this dream, and the parents for supporting them. Not every kid has a supportive parent behind them. </p>
<p>Best of luck to all of you as the decisions continue to come in, and then in making the choice about where to attend (that can be as stressful as the application process, too!)</p>
<p>My D applied to 13 schools, 14 programs (Minn being two; she thought maybe of applying to both degrees at Montclair but then changed her mind).</p>
<p>She absolutely wants a BFA more than anything, but has room in her heart for a BA she likes.</p>
<p>I told people she had twice as many schools as most kids (at least at our HS) because she had 2 full lists: reach/match/safety at non-auditioned schools, and very selective/less selective at the auditioned ones. We don’t say BA vs. BFA because she not only had an auditioned BA like many kids, but she also actually had an non-auditioned BFA that she liked, which I considered extremely fortunate. I thank the CC family for helping us find it (it is URI, which we learned of through Gwen Fairfax; I don’t know of any others, but I believe there is one in Texas that snapdragonfly is familiar with).</p>
<p>My D, like so many of these kids, wanted to know that someone would take her by audition, and she’s grateful that one school (maybe another … hello, New Paltz, could we PLEASE have our letter??) does really love her. Of course she wanted more, but this is life goes sometimes. And she was the kind of kid who was going to school next year no matter what, didn’t ever mention a gap year or trying again. So I know she was going to manage with whatever results she had, that she was happy with her safeties (which include the BA at Minn). That helped a lot - for me, too, I’ll admit, because I’m exhausted from the first try!</p>
<p>But the rejections are hard. I’m not downplaying that. This is a rough road, and these kids deserve a ton of respect. I’m honored to have shared this experience with all of you.</p>
<p>Canada - So glad that USC is a good fit for you - congratulations. Can you please tell us how and when you heard from Fordham? So far most of us haven’t heard a peep.</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>Canada,
Are you still pursuing your Canadian auditions/options? My daughter dropped her Ryerson and NTS auditions once she had other (US) acceptances because the Canadian timeline is so much later. NTS results come mid-June, and her Ryerson audition would not have been until April 25th. We went through the same scenario with our other daughter, a voice major. It is very frustrating - don’t know why the Canadian schools can’t get in synch with the US.</p>
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<p>Maybe the U.S. schools should get in sync with the Canada. 
The reason is pretty clear, though. Most Canadian students who are pursuing theatre are doing it in Canada, not in the U.S., so Canadian schools have no reason to adapt their schedules to a U.S. schedule.</p>
<p>But… didn’t your daughter go to Tisch? And it looks like my daughter will go to RSAMD or CalArts. And it looks like Canada may go to USC.
I would much rather my daughter be able to make a decision across the board. My other daughter would not have known her teacher placement at University of Toronto until mid-June. It was a very difficult decision, but she went with a US school because she had a commitment from the teacher as well as a good scholarship. And, of course, the deadline for her decision was May 1. Just sayin…</p>
<p>She did, indeed, but what I said is still true. Most Canadian students will stay in Canada to pursue theatre so there’s no incentive for Canadian universities to make the effort you’d like them to, especially for so very few students. It would mean an overhaul of the entire Canadian admissions system, not just theatre students. It won’t happen, nor should it.</p>
<p>Because this is the Theatre Rejection Thread, I’m sending you a PM.
I have a different perspective as a dual citizen and as a professional orchestral musician. My daughters are both dual citizens as well.</p>
<p>D rejected from Fordham; now “99.9% certain” she is Tisch class of 2015. The .1% is around studio placement, but I think they’ll probably put her where she wants to be, and really I can’t see her going somewhere else ( though it’s often a surprise with her). I’ll be glad when it’s a done deal!</p>
<p>How’s everyone else doing?</p>
<p>D applied to 11 schools:</p>
<p>Rejected (heartbreakingly so): Juilliard</p>
<p>Waitlisted: Emerson, CalArts, SUNY Purchase</p>
<p>Accepted: Boston University (BFA), DePaul (BFA), Fordham (BA), Marymount Manhattan (BFA), Atlantic Theatre Acting School (non-degree conservatory) and Stella Adler (non-degree conservatory)</p>
<p>And still nothing from NYU. Not sure why…</p>
<p>My d applied to 10 auditioned BFA acting programs, and did a few walk-ins at the Unifieds. Her academic record was not the best, so any schools that took grades and scores into more than nominal consideration, or were unwilling to look beyond them and work with her, were definitely a reach. I didn’t discourage her from applying to any schools despite her academics, and she did enjoy most of the auditions.</p>
<p>Here’s the list:
Rejected from Juilliard, Purchase, CMU, Syracuse, NYU, Emerson, Rutgers and CCM (walk in @ Unifieds) re: BFA acting.</p>
<p>Accepted (again, BFA acting) at Adelphi, Hartt and SCAD (walk-in @ Unifieds). Still waiting for UConn.</p>
<p>All of the rejections stung my D big-time, not gonna lie or bluster…</p>
<p>My D never much cared about her BA applications, so I’m not bothering with that list.</p>
<p>Thanks to everyone about USC! And I’m sorry to hear about everyone’s rejections. Even though BFA programs are longshots, it still hurts to read those rejections.</p>
<p>@ oldviola: Actually, the Canadian schools that I applied to for theatre were non-audition BA programs. I decided my Canadian schools should be safties since pretty much all of my American schools were in the reach territory. But I do agree, the Canadian application process in general is much later than the American ones, and it’s off-putting.</p>
<p>Hang in there. My D did not get into Tisch and was equally shocked, as she felt she had a really great audition. It broke her heart because she so wanted to be in NYC. In the end, though, she got into UCLA, Emerson (BFA), CCM and Cal Arts, so she had lots of great choices, and picked UCLA. Its turned out to be the right choice for her because she is clearly heading to film and has been fully embraced by the UCLA film students. So, I guess the thing to remember is you end up where you are supposed to be.</p>
<p>Try to remember that, in most cases, a year from now, your kids will be happily learning and studying at a school that will feel like home and where they cannot even imagine not going.</p>
<p>The last two envelopes arrived here yesterday, one fat and one thin. Unfortunately the thin envelope was from Fordham, D’s top choice (after UMinn/Guthrie). She has been holding out hope and was really crushed. Lots of tears, probably as much about all the rejections and the whole process as that individual school, just a big venting. After she pulled herself together she opened the fat envelope from Sarah Lawrence. We were both astounded to see a merit award and invitation to visit campus on their dime. More tears. And D saying she doesn’t care if they think she is smart. Poor kid would trade in her handful of merit awards in a heartbeat for a couple more auditioned acceptances. But really she knows she has some great options and will be fine, more than fine.</p>
<p>So for those of you keeping score at home the rejection tally is:</p>
<p>UMinn Guthrie (got in BA)
Syracuse
BU
Rutgers (got in BA)
Fordham</p>
<p>And a waitlist at Emerson (which she will stay on).</p>
<p>Just a few days ago I thought there was a good chance D could come out of this empty-handed. I had steeled myself for that. D’s auditioned list was skewed towards competitive programs with strong academics because the academic component is important to her. The list was narrow but suited her and in the end she has one auditioned option that she is happy with and will consider to balance her BA options. So while she is disappointed not to have more, I consider this successful. Now she has the hard work of deciding!</p>
<p>Hi Left of Pisa,
It is so amazing that she has the fat one from Sarah L. It is an amazingly artistic place.
I can understand her disappointment, and this is not a dismissal of it. But my son after graduating college did not get into a program in Japan 2 years ago. He was heartbroken. He applied again last year, and did not get in. The second year he applied to 4 other places. He only got into one, but got a full scholarship, and in the end, was not in Japan this month. And I wrote to him the day of the tsunami and mentioned it. I was so glad he was not there, and instead in Iowa… Who knows in life? Best of luck to your family…</p>
<p>It’s so helpful to have “veteran” parents lend their perspective to this thread.</p>
<p>My D is doing OK, and I think the excitement from the acceptances she has is starting to build.</p>
<p>She remarked today that she came up 0-5 at Unifieds. It didn’t help that she was sick there. We also hadn’t managed to find a chance for her to audition somewhere before Unifieds as a warm-up, so she was very nervous. Also, every school she auditioned for at Unifieds had very low acceptance rates. </p>
<p>I’m not talking down Unifieds, just saying that it was difficult in our case. I know some people had great luck there, and even with walk-ins. I think our situation showed that it would be a very good thing if possible not to put all of your eggs in the Unifieds’ basket. I’d recommend having a mix of audition experiences.</p>
<p>Thanks Mother or GG. I agree. Its unbelievably nice to know that you veteran moms are out there pulling for us and our kids and offering helpful advice along the way.</p>