Think Tank Put Dartmouth at #4

Colleges & Universities A-Z Dartmouth College
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<p>Princeton first in The Consus Group's university rankings</p>

<p>LOS ANGELES, California—Princeton University ranked first in The Consus Group's annual survey of undergraduate universities. Harvard and Yale tied for second, with Dartmouth and The University of Chicago completing the top five.</p>

<p>The Consus Group generally analyzes contracts, industries, and companies. Occasionally, however, TCG displays its analytical expertise on other subjects of interest to the business and legal communities. Its university rankings are one of these periodic exercises.</p>

<p>TCG determined the nation's best undergraduate universities using a sophisticated methodology. This approach canvassed numerous factors, including: published rankings, selectivity, placement and salary statistics, and class yields.</p>

<p>Published Rankings: A proxy for prestige, published rankings proved a useful metric for assessing a university's reputation. To eliminate the vagaries of published rankings, The Consus Group incorporated both current and historical ratings from numerous sources. </p>

<p>Selectivity: TCG measured the quality of universities' admitted candidates using SAT scores, high school GPAs, and the percentage of applicants admitted. Typically, the best schools attract many of the best candidates—providing another proxy for prestige. </p>

<p>Placement & Salary: Placement and salary statistics provided objective measures of universities' performance placing their graduates. To reduce annual fluctuations in placement and salary statistics, TCG used current and historical placement and salary statistics. </p>

<p>Yield: Yield measured the percentage of admitted candidates actually matriculating to the admitting university—another indication of a school's appeal. </p>

<p>While many university rankings fluctuate wildly from year to year, TCG's methodology produces a stable, accurate picture of America's best undergraduate universities.</p>

<p>About TCG</p>

<p>Founded by attorneys and management consultants, The Consus Group provides crucial intelligence about contracts, industries, and companies. TCG's research products clarify complicated legal agreements, explain industry structures and relationships, and provide unparalleled competitive intelligence. TCG also provides complementary professional services, including customized contract and industry analyses.</p>

<p>The Consus Group's intelligence products are state-of-the-art. TCG uses a sophisticated infrastructure to amass and process enormous amounts of information from many sources. This information is compiled in massive databases, dissected with powerful statistical tools, and synthesized by experts.</p>

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<p>heyyyy that's way higher than it's normally ranked! Go Dartmouth!</p>

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<p>bout time... Dartmouth is a gem. But in any case, rankings are not precise or a good way to measure the absolute "quality" of a school.</p>

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<p>hey drownindreams, which schools did you choose Dartmouth over?</p>

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<p>Dartmouth so deserves to be above Penn- the only thing bolstering Penn's ranking is Wharton, which skews the ranking. Dartmouth and Penn should really just switch rankings. </p>

<p>This is how I'd rank them: (the first 3 I'm not 100% sure about, but the rest look good to me)</p>

<p>-Harvard
-Yale
-Princeton
-Columbia
-Darmouth
-Brown
-Penn
-Cornell</p>

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<p>Isn't Penn more selective than Dartmouth?</p>

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<p>Whatever, that doesn't mean it's better.</p>

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<p>AI wise, it's: </p>

<p>Harvard
Yale/Princeton
Dartmouth</p>

<p>(GAP)</p>

<p>Columbia
Penn
Brown
Cornell</p>

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<p>AI? What's that?</p>

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<p>I think only wharton is more selective than Dartmouth, but not Penn College.</p>

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<p>AI = gpa, SATI, etc. Used mainly for athletic purposes, but Ivies are still measured by AI IMO</p>

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<p>Yeah- and actually, Penn accepts close to 20%, and Dartmouth is only 19% (overall).</p>

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<p>it's 18% :)</p>

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<p>eighteen...</p>

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<p>Oops, sorry. :o I should of known that.</p>

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<p>Here's a link to the new 2004 Consus Group rankings, which the OP doesn't like so much for some reason!</p>

<p><a href="http://www.consusgroup.com/news/rankings/colleges/colleges.asp%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.consusgroup.com/news/rankings/colleges/colleges.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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"Dartmouth so deserves to be above Penn- the only thing bolstering Penn's ranking is Wharton, which skews the ranking. Dartmouth and Penn should really just switch rankings."

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<p>That's stupid. It's like saying, oh that ring won't be worth much if it didn't have the diamond. Let's ignore the diamond. Wharton is part of Penn as much as Harvard's strength in law and MIT's strength in engineering. It's like saying, hey, MIT is overrated b/c its engineering is so strong. Without engineering, MIT still has a decent business school and humanities school, but it's not the same.</p>

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Isn't Penn more selective than Dartmouth?

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<p>I think it is. Look up the USNEWS selectivity rank. Acceptance % is NOT the same as selectivity. You also have to factor in the strength of the applicant pool.</p>

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<p>Wow, looking at the new rankings, it looks like the Consus group isn't very stable. </p>

<p>Brown, Berkeley, UCLA should not be ahead of Penn and Dartmouth. Berkeley has an amazing research program and a great grad program but their undergrad is pretty much sink or swim. UCLA is worse than Berkeley.</p>

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<p>I know, it doesn't make sense how UCLA and Berkeley are ranked higher.</p>

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<p>Duskstamper, generally Dartmouth College students have higher stats than Penn students do. Dartmouth has a higher SAT average than Penn (combined) does, and wharton has higher stats than penn college. Insofacto, Dartmouth should have higher SAT average than Penn college...and i think we can count this as a part of selectivity too.</p>