<p>NBC’s ‘Today’ show will be doing a live hour segment from the Univ of Tennessee to be shown nationally this coming Monday’s broadcast. Maybe during the segment they’ll do a story about the butt chugging incident and get to the bottom of what actually happened.</p>
<p>This seems like a topic Jon Stewart would find hard to resist - I hope that he does resist it, because I would hate to see something so {insert adjective here} gain any popularity.</p>
<p>I’m curious whether we’re reading the same stories, "just"aMom. And, xiggi, where is there any indication the dad is minimizing the seriousness of what happened? Please supply evidence based on what the guy actually said, because I’m not reading his concern about accuracy as minimizing what happened. </p>
<p>Here is a salient quote from the dad (from article linked a few posts up): “I’m not saying the entire story is false. It’s not. But portions of it were significantly erroneous.” The family naturally wants to know the facts. The father was concerned that details were shared with the press before the police investigation was complete. He spoke of teaching his son to take responsibility for his actions. This does not square with the suggestion that he is taking a “not my son” approach. Is there a quote from the dad that you’ve seen that suggests that? Perhaps there is another article. That is not the impression I got from quotes in the two articles referenced in this thread.</p>
<p>Why play games of semantics and strawmen argumentation? </p>
<p>I wrote about minimizing the negatives … as it would be expected from the parents. I am not really interested in searching for the exact quotations, let alone analyze or explain them, especially since I also considered them to have little relevance and be trivial to the grand scheme of what happens in our schools. This is only Exhibit 2000 in a long series of similarly egregious behavior by students and the morons who facilitate such actions.</p>
<p>Here’s an undate on what the Dad and his family are contesting. I think it is fair to say they are contesting the use of an alcohol enema to get that drunk.</p>
<p>UT is taking action. 14 suspensions. Apparently, this most recent incident came within a few weeks of a face to face meeting with fraternity/sorority leaders that included the reminder that UT is an alcohol-free campus.</p>
<p>The Internet isnt just an expose/invasion of privacy/embarrassment concern for our youths. </p>
<p>I can find Congressional testimony my great grand father gave over 100 years ago on sharecropping online by googling his name. There is a 1970 newspaper article on something I was involved in that I found by googling several of the names of people involved. </p>
<p>My S a week or so ago mentioned the names of two individuals involved in something and in less than 10 minutes online I had found detailed information on the parole revocation in New Mexico, re-arrest in New York and extradition back to New Mexico of one of them, along with a mug shot of the individual posted on the probation departments website. An this was for a low quantity felony pot offense by someone with a run of the mill name and no celebrity status.</p>
<p>BTW there are websites that fast post as many mug shots as they can get access to along with the persons name. They offer to take down the information FOR A FEE.</p>
<p>I get the idea that the Police viewed this as a criminal investigation into underage alcohol offenses by an otherwise adult person or persons. Anyone know if HIPPA covers NAME, a 20 year old, was admitted to the ER with blood alcohol levels of .40, 5 times the lawful limit for public intoxication, etc. Is how the guy got drunk (allegedly) within HIPPA?</p>
<p>The cat is out of the bag even without JS’ popularizing the method of alcohol delivery (this method of delivery of pharmaceutical agents is nothing new as well). I do not find the subject matter funny - it is scary and sad. Anderson Cooper made a bunch of jokes about the issue last night, and although I did not watch any late night shows, I’m absolutely positive that they made a bunch of jokes about it as well.</p>
<p>Maybe I’ve been living in a cave, Xiggi, because I had never heard about this method of alcohol delivery either. And believe me, as a college student in the 70s and single/DINK in NYC in the early/mid 80s I’ve experienced my share of debauchery. At least.</p>
<p>I had heard of this as a method of delivering nutrition to patients who could not take things by mouth, specifically in a PD James novel. But never alcohol.</p>
<p>Consolation, Look at my line about minute details. The method of delivery is one thing, but the general debauchery is another. The mechanics of use are trivial and that should not be the focus. The issue is that school officials are paid to KNOW what is going on at their school, especially when they are not around. So, nothing should shock them … if they did their job.</p>
<p>Don’t laugh - has anyone ever seen the show Manswers? They describe this as a way of getting alcohol into the system more quickly than by mouth.</p>
<p>No, nothing new here. I had a college prof in the 1970’s who reported this happening to him. He said this was a common method of hazing of freshman at his Baptist University in the 1940’s.</p>
<p>Unbelievable, a pack mentality can lead to a lot of stupid stuff. Thank goodness the kid is alright. Hopefully this fraternity can be shut down for good, they seem to be pretty stupid.</p>