<p>Is there a major difference between Ti-83 and Ti-84 that expresses on level of pre-calc? :</p>
<p>"TI-84+ can do integrals and derivatives. I'm in Calc AB, btw, and an 83+ is fine for even that class...84+ is just convienient "</p>
<p>I'd get one...For the games:DI'm not sure what integrals and derivatives are but I'm guessing that's one.</p>
<p>I don't think there are integrals and derivatives in pre-calc. AFAIK, pre-calc is trigonometry+maybe limits etc. But I'd get TI-84 then, just not to buy another one for Calc (though I have TI-83 now) :)</p>
<p>All the integrals and derivates I did in pre-calc we were had to show the work so the calculator won't really help. I'd personally go Ti-84 Silver Edition. On Ebay you can get them brand new for $75. It's more powerful and it comes with more apps. If you go Silver Edition which you should I believe it comes with a USB cable so you can download useful apps online. The regular 84+ may as well, but Silver Edition has more memory. Either way, unless you struggle in math, the difference between an 83+ and even an 84 silver edition won't really matter. It just may make a couple things take a few seconds less.</p>
<p>All of my class uses TI-89 Titanium calculators, as is required of the AP math track, but I think this is overkill.</p>
<p>I'm in AP Calc BC right now... but I've been using the 84+ for 3 years. Should I get the 89 and be the only one in my class? Or would it be too much of a learning curve and the 84+ will do fine with integrals and such?</p>
<p>Personally, I had my 83+ for two years for Alg.2 and Pre-Cal. It worked just fine for me, plus I deleted some of it's programs (flashcards is so worthless) to make room for games. Now in Calc BC I've stepped it up to the 89 Titanium and I can't believe I've lived without it. It solves equations for you. It factors for you. That's what's up. I keep my 83+ in my computer room for quick basic calculations and the games.</p>
<p>I have a TI-89 :)</p>
<p>But on a more serious note, the TI-83 should be fine, unless you're younger and are planning to on to higher maths like Calc 3.</p>
<p>Well I understand it does all of that and more... but for the past 3 years my teachers have given examples and taught the sequences of buttons required to solve specific problems on the 83/84's... so I was wondering since I'd be having to teach myself how easy it is to learn how to do it on an 89.</p>
<p>In reference to kman- Is it fair to force kids to use 89's? They cost an extra $50-60 around here, which is a lot for some kids. They're harder to use/learn, and they have a load of functions that most people never use.</p>
<p>For me it was all pretty intuitive, especially if you've used 83/84 and know their capabilities. Thins that took me awhile to get used to were: having to carrot a squared term. Also I haven't found a way to get more than a square root (as in like cube root etc.). the f's take a little bit of getting used to, but really can be very helpful. Also, the default of giving exact answers could be considered a blessing or a curse.</p>
<p>I definitely agree there that it is awesome that you can plug in an equation and get the exact derivative and such. I'm just curious whether the 84 will suffice for AP Calculus BC; and whether it will be good in college as well. Honestly, I probably wouldn't be able to learn myself the 89... then again I haven't tried. It's just that for 3 years I've been taught all of the functions and features on the 84... so I'm used to being taught myself. So basically I wanna know whether the 84 would be good for a few years... like will it suffice in college as well I mean</p>
<p>Silentsailor, I'm pretty sure the 83 can do integrals and derivatives too.</p>
<p>Get the 84+, I've had them both and the 84+ was just better and easier IMO.</p>