<p>Thank you for your help!</p>
<p>soosievt,
I want to thank you for all your posts. You have been so extraordinarily helpful and take so much time to answer so many confused parents and students! So many of your entries have enlightened and helped me. Can I ask how your daughter is liking Tisch this year? And is she fully recovered from her time in the hospital? </p>
<p>I too need the financial aid, and am grateful to have received a very generous offer from Tisch, so it does look like my son will go. However, it'll be very tight, and I have five children; this son is the oldest. I'm also a single mom, and don't have any 'back-up' (parents, a nest egg somewhere etc.) Not whining--I'm grateful, actually, that America offers such opportunities to nearly everyone; but I am worried, I have to confess.</p>
<p>RAPHAEL,
Thank you and I am glad you have found some of my posts to be helpful. I am sorry for the delayed response as I have not been online for 8 days. </p>
<p>Congratulations on your son's achievements! I give you a lot of credit as a single mother of five children! I can tell you are very supportive of your son's pursuits and will be trying to find a way for him to realize his dreams. Kudos to you. I read on another thread about the financial aid and while it is a very good package for you, it falls short as you must make a contribution to his fees. I want to point out, in case you are unaware, that there are Parent Plus loans which you can take out at a very low interest rate. If your contribution is $9000/year, perhaps you can take out a PLUS loan over ten years for part of it, and your son contribute part through summer jobs. I don't know if that is feasible for you, with the other children coming up. However, I will also point out that once your second child enters college, and I don't know their age spread, your finanical "need" will appear even greater and often the financial aid package increases. I have only two kids but they are both in college now. While they are two years apart in age, my younger one (the one at Tisch), chose to graduate high school after her junior year and so they entered college one year apart. As soon as the second child entered, the financial aid package at my older one's school went much higher and I am sure it affected the package that the younger one got since we have two in school. So, you can also ask at NYU if in subsequent years, with two in college, if they predict your package may increase as your need will surely increase. Also, perhaps your son can seek out any local sources of even small scholarships (even the $1000 type ones) and contribute those to the balance that you must fund. A combination of summer work on his part, local scholarship funds, and a Parent Plus Loan over ten years, might be the way to go. Consult the FA office for any advice, as well. A work study job would be very difficult to do with a BFA program. My kids did not accept the work study portion of their aid packages. However, my D who goes to Tisch, has found ways to earn money during the school year in flexible work she has landed. There might be something your son can also do during the school year to earn some money, besides in summers, but that is of a more flexible nature. (some of this is in response to a post you have on another NYU/Tisch thread.</p>
<p>As far as if my D is enjoying Tisch, yes, very very much so. She says she is learning soooo much and just loves all the various aspects of going to the school. I don't think there are enough hours in the day to do all the things she wants to do! If you have specific questions, please ask, and I can try to answer. And yes, thankfully, my D was able to make a full recovery from her severe injuries from two years ago, just in time to enter Tisch. While she felt her dancing was not up to her own standards when she first began freshman year, it is amazing she was dancing at all. Besides the injuries, she was out of dance for six months. But now she is much more in shape physically, she feels. She is very thankful for being alive and doing what she gets to do. In fact, any audition rejections are not too big of a deal when she knows of things much worse. I'm looking forward to seeing her in her first Tisch musical which opens tonight, and am always grateful of the miracles of survival when I see her on a stage again. I hope things of this nature are behind her!</p>
<p>I am bumping this thread for those who are wondering why some have received invitations from NYU while others haven't.</p>
<p>Sorry, what does bumping this thread mean? Do you know why some have and others have not?</p>
<p>When you "bump" something on a message board it simply means that I am posting so that an older thread can be brought back up to the top read by people who may have missed it the first time around. It's interesting reading but if you want me to summarize for you it would be that everyone invited to the upcoming Admissions Event (not sure if it's still called Sat. in the Square) is definitely accepted but that there will be lots of other people accepted eventually who did not get invited and the reasons are discussed at length.</p>
<p>I would like to point out that those invited to Saturday in the Square are not necessarily those with the highest GPA/test scores. We happen to know kids in years past who were invited to this event, but whose scores were not as high as some others who were not invited, and yet who still received acceptances. Just in case people are thinking I am not on Tisch's "Wanted list" :).</p>
<p>However, more importantly, there is another rumor flying around this year that now all those accepted RD to Tisch are invited to this accepted students event. I am guessing they are assuming that not all will actually rsvp that they are coming :D. Those of you who are still waiting to hear, you may want to call and verify if this is indeed true, because rumors are just that rumors, unless someone actually hears it from the horse's mouth. Unfortunately I have not been able to verify this, as the people we know that applied this year, either applied ED, or are RD's who have heard already.</p>
<p>I don't think that rumor is true. Isn't there an NYU blog for admissions that states that the students who are not invited to the event aren't necessarily rejected? Some acceptees will still get their acceptances on April 1st, although they were not invited to the event.</p>
<p>... Maybe I can find the link somewhere.</p>
<p>Here is the link to the Admitted Students Invitation page on NYU's website. The site does say that "ALL" accepted students will be invited to an "Admitted Students Day". It is just unclear if April 4th is the ONLY Tisch day.</p>
<p>NYU</a> > Undergraduate Admissions > On and Off Campus Events</p>
<p>mrsmia, I interpret the page you linked to differently. All who got the invitation are accepted. But they also state that if you did not get an invitation, it does not necessarily mean you were not accepted. Therefore, I don't think it is true that all accepted students are invited to the accepted student event (which used to be called Sat. in the Square for Tisch but I guess it is now called Admitted Students Day). </p>
<p>While you say it is unclear if there is only one event for Tisch accepted students, I can tell you that there is indeed only ONE event day for Tischies. There are other event days for OTHER NYU schools.
***I say this based on every year up until now, at least. If they have changed it, could be.</p>
<p>It says:</p>
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The first question is: "I received an invitation. Does this mean that I will be offered admission to NYU?" The answer to this question is a resounding "Yes!"</p>
<p>The other question we always receive is "I didn’t receive an invitation. Does this mean I will not be offered admission to NYU?" The answer to this question is "Not necessarily."</p>
<p>There are several reasons why NOT receiving an invitation - yet - does not automatically mean that you will not be offered admission. First, our admissions process continues through the end of March. While we are in the process of finalizing decisions, we must also begin mailing program invitations so that families can make necessary travel arrangements. In other words, we have to begin mailing invitations before we have finished making admissions decisions. Since at this time we are still actively reviewing applicants and making admissions decisions, not receiving an invitation is in no way an indication of an admissions decision. All applicants will receive official admissions decisions notification on or around April 1st.
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<p>I must admit, however, that the following statement makes it confusing and might be interpretted a DIFFERENT way than the above statement:</p>
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Quite simply, all of our soon-to-be-admitted students will be invited to an admissions event, but not everyone will receive the same invitation or receive them at the same time.
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<p>Thus, it is hard to tell if all those admitted will be invited to an event. The second statement says so.</p>
<p>Susan, I think that it's similar to what has been said in previous years. There are a variety of different types of admitted student 'events'. Some are held on campus in NY, some are held regionally (the title of that linked page indicates off-campus, too). It's true that every admitted NYU student will receive an invitation to attend AN event, as they have in the past. The events that are now apparently being called Admitted Students Day (why on earth would they change it to that generic name?!) are, from what I've heard, similar to past years in that they are sent to students that NYU (and Tisch) want to convince to accept the official offer of admission when it arrives on April 1. As you know lots of colleges do this with the students they most want to attract. I haven't heard anything about all admitted students being invited to this first event this year. That wouldn't really make any sense, and logistics would not allow for that many kids to be able to participate in an event like this. For Tisch, it would mean ~500 drama students and even more for film, dramatic writing, etc.</p>
<p>I agree that things most likely have not changed this year from last and the one before that. All admitted students <em>are</em> or will be invited to an event, regionally or otherwise. But this particular early April event is usually reserved for the top 10% of admitted students.</p>
<p>With all due respect to above (very knowledgeable members), since there were also changes with Tisch's auditions this year, it just may be best to go straight to the source. </p>
<p>Again, what I alluded to above, when I asked during a tour last year if those who get invited to Saturday in the Square are only those with the highest academic credentials, I was told that this invite was actually based on a combination of factors, very much in line with Tisch's acceptance philosophy. I asked this because at that time we knew of a very talented young man, who had exceptional grades, and yet was not invited to this event the year before, while his friend (with scores in the low end of the spectrum) did. </p>
<p>Moral of my story? Assuming that still only a small group of people get this invite, do not feel that you are necessarily Tisch's "second choice". Just remember that, like alwaysamom also says, logistics of inviting everybody would seem quite challenging.</p>
<p>AlwaysAMom, I assumed it was like it has been in the past. They invited students they hoped to attact to attend NYU to this event which previously was always called Saturday in the Square. Calling it Admitted Students Day is confusing as it implies it is for all who are admitted which is actually how it is done at MOST schools....example, my older D went to admitted student open houses at her admitted schools and these were for all who were admitted, not a select group of admitted students. </p>
<p>NYU has maintained all along that not all those who are admitted will be invited to what used to be called Sat. in the Square (the event for Tisch, but similar events are held for the other NYU schools). </p>
<p>MTgrlsmom, I don't think it was ever about the highest SAT and GPAs as that is not how students are admitted in the first place to NYU. It involves so much more than that. Anyway, if the Saturday in the Square event is like in years past, the invites are to those the school wants to help convince to attend (for any number of reasons, well beyond SAT and GPA stats). I'm not convinced that the group invited is so "small" however. It may not be everyone admitted, but it is not like a very small select group either.</p>
<p>I agree with you that there could be changes year to year and many of us are commenting on what the situation has been at least up until now. Whether it has changed, I don't know. Like you say, the auditions changed in several ways this year.</p>
<p>Many who get the invitation, don't actually attend the event (due to travel expenses or have seen the school already or do not plan to enroll anyway, etc.). When we attended the Tisch Saturday in the Square event, Skirball was pretty full with the attending accepted students and their parents. Just to give some perspective that it is not all accepted students but not a very small number either.</p>
<p>Susan, what would be your guess as to number of students when you attended? Were those who filled Skirball for all of Tisch or just the Drama students and their parents? I'm not sure that I've heard the 10% before or not (I'm getting old and my brain doesn't work as well as it used to! ;)) but that would probably represent ~50 drama students, if all/most attended. It would be interesting to know what percentage of those invited usually attend.</p>
<p>I agree that this event has never been strictly for the top academic achievers. The way it has always been explained is that it is for the 'top' applicants, based on the Tisch admissions parameters, that Tisch most wants to convince to attend. This, obviously, would be judged by the same factors which go into assessing all applicants, and would include both academic and artistic components. I don't think that anyone need feel slighted by this, as, realistically speaking, there will always be a group of 'top' applicants, regardless of the school or program, and all schools should want to attract, and enroll, their top applicants.</p>
<p>The first event of the day is in Skirball and for the invited admitted Tishies in ALL departments, and their parents. Skirball was rather full for that (for those who don't know Skirball, it is akin to a Broadway style large theater). So, that is why I really doubt we are talking about just 10% of those admitted to Tisch! We have to also remember that many who are invited, don't attend the event....it can be costly to do so, and some may already know they are going to attend and have visited before, and others have stricken Tisch from their list of acceptances. After that initial event, the students are divided up by department and so then all of Tisch Drama kids go into another event and the parents went to something else. Again, this is still quite a large number of people. I just didn't want anyone to think this was some very small select group. I don't think it represents all who are admitted but simply not just 10% either, and surely not based on GPA or SAT at all. That same day, we went to a luncheon reception for Tisch Scholars. Now THAT event WAS small.....about 18 students were selected as Scholars and it was them and their parents, administrators and a few current Scholars. However, Tisch Scholars is no longer after this group finishes NYU. </p>
<p>We attended that day, but not in order to select a college (which is one main reason for such an event and a reason my older D went to such events with her admitted schools). My D already knew she was going to enroll at Tisch (has wanted to go since she was about 12) and it was a first choice and once accepted, she never discussed where she would matriculate among her accepted schools as it was a done deal. We had already visited NYU twice before. But we took her to this event as it is exciting for an admitted student to look ahead to the future and it was a lot of fun. It also had special meaning for my D (and for us as parents) since she was accepted while in a very precarious state in the hospital and the day of this event was her first day allowed out of a hospital bed in three weeks and so it was like a new beginning and just very special to look ahead. I encourage those who were invited to go as it is a fun way to look ahead to the next four years and meet people and hear more about everything. And of course, to get an NYU sweatshirt or some such. :D</p>