<p>Hi girls</p>
<p>Is there low-income international students in Barnard too?
Or are there only rich international students?</p>
<p>I was wondering if Barnard even admits low income international students.</p>
<p>Thanks <3</p>
<p>First, I am a mom of a Barnard grad, but Barnard has the following on their financial aid info page:</p>
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<p>So, though they are committed to admitting well qualified international students, they cannot guarantee to cover financial need. Also admission for international students is NOT need-blind. So if someone is amazingly bright and talented and well-qualified, theoretically that person could get one of the few available need-based scholarships. But to answer your question, I would guess that there are mostly “rich” international students at Barnard.</p>
<p>Hi
I thought barnard meets 100% demonstrated need for ALL ADMITTED students.
Yes, I know that Barnard is need aware for internationals but if they are admitted, do they meet full need?</p>
<p>So, i guess there is no low income international students in Barnard :/</p>
<p>According to the quote above, I gather that, yes, if admitted Barnard does meet (their definition of) full “need”. But, again, admission for internationals is NOT need-blind. So I would think there would not be a “lot” of low income international students there. That being said, nobody gets accepted if they do not apply. You never know!</p>
<p>You should be aware, though, that Barnard’s idea of “need” might not match up perfectly with what you and/or your parents think you “need”. And the financial aid given to meet a student’s “need” will include loans as well as grants. And work study. It’s not a “free-ride” type deal–though there might be some scholarships that you could apply for independently. It does not hurt to try for it!</p>
<p>Because i tried net price calculator and my parents said its okay. But i was just worried that im getting my hopes up for nothing 
So i was just wondering if there is any low income students!</p>
<p>Thanks!!</p>
<p>You need to know that Barnard has their own formula for determining “need”. I just want you to have alternatives in case you are disappointed. </p>
<p>I wish you the best!</p>
<p>Thank you churchmusicmom!
I’m really hoping for the best!! (I hope Barnard does take low income internationals as well (for diversity)!!)</p>
<p><3</p>
<p>Barnard accepts low-income internationals. For class of '16 the number of them is three.</p>
<p>Oh… only three?
D: wow. it must be so competitive!</p>
<p>Yes, it is competitive.</p>
<p>Again, from the quote above:</p>
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<p>which is why ANY applicant to Barnard, but in particular, international applicants needing financial aid, should have good alternatives available to them.</p>
<p>Who are some good teachers at Barnard in the engineering department?</p>
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<p>First, Barnard offers an engineering degree in a joint 5 year program with Columbia (Fu Foundation). From Barnard’s website:</p>
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<p>So your question about good teachers at Barnard in the engineering department is a bit more complex…maybe a current or past student with more knowledge of the program will address it here…Though you might want to start a new thread to ask your question.</p>
<p>How do you get recruited for sports?
Thank you!</p>
<p>I posted this information on another thread, but I feel that it’s relevant to this discussion:</p>
<p>It’s important to realize that Barnard is NOT NEEDS BLIND for international students, and therefore a lot of tremendously qualified applicants who need a full-ride (or a substantial amount of financial aid to attend) are often not accepted. </p>
<p>A student at my school applied to Barnard College two years ago through the Early Decision program. She was an International Physics Olympiad gold medalist, she had attended university courses in mathematics, chemistry, physics, and philosophy since her junior year of high school (and had achieved As on all courses taken), she had conducted and published scientific research in an undergraduate journal, and was a concert pianist who had toured with European orchestras. She was, however, in need of a full ride and was (quite shockingly) rejected. </p>
<p>To future and current international students who receive a letter of rejection from Barnard, and who felt that they were competitive applicants, please recognize that it may not have been due to any deficiency in your application. Barnard College does not have an endowment that allows them to exercise needs blind admissions for international students (indeed, only a TINY number of schools do). </p>
<p>The student I referred to above ended up gaining admission to Yale, Princeton, and Cambridge (amongst other schools). The first two are needs blind for international students, and will meet the demonstrated need of all admitted students. Cambridge does not take the financial situation of a student into consideration when making an admissions decision. A rejection from Barnard College does not necessarily indicate that the outcome at other schools (whether they be as or more competitive) will be the same. </p>
<p>PLEASE DO NOT GET DISCOURAGED. Be realistic when making an application to Barnard College, and make sure you research which schools are either needs blind for international students (i.e. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, ECLA Bard), or who have a history of being generous with financial aid for international students (i.e. University of Rochester).</p>
<p>Barnard doesn’t always give a full financial assistance even to American citizens. So, I’m not sure how this need blind policy works in this college. I have an example from last year of an American girl admitted to Barnard. She asked for full ride aid, Barnard gave her only $40000, despite it was clearly said in her parents’ income documents that they had no money at all for her studies…;(</p>
<p>Need-blind is not the same as full-need. A number of the tops schools are both, but there are some (e.g. Bryn Mawr or Tufts) who are full-need without being need-blind, and many who are need-blind without being full-need. Need-Blind just means that they won’t look at one’s financial circumstances when making a decision, not that they’ll actually meet that need.</p>
<p>That said, Barnard does claim to have a full-need policy, at least for domestic freshmen (freshwomen?). That girl must have been on the unlucky side of however they calculate need.</p>
<p>Barnard has its own formula for calculating what they consider to be your “need”. They consider FAFSA and (can’t think of the other form we had to fill out in addition to Barnard’s own separate and very specific one—probably I have blocked it out! ) as well as Barnard’s own. They look at savings, at investments, at all sorts of things you might not consider, to come up with what they think is a fair assessment of “need”.</p>
<p>The one you can’t think of is the CSS Profile. Our “need” at all of the schools where my daughter was accepted was within a couple thousand dollars and they all used the CSS Profile in addition to the FAFSA. The cost of attendance varied wildly, but in the end, our cost at each school was pretty similar.</p>
<p>Yup, blocked that clear out. I dreaded filling out FAFSA, CSS profile AND Barnard’s financial aid request info every year…made doing taxes seems like a piece of cake. All in all, though, we could NOT have sent our daughter to Barnard without financial aid.</p>
<p>and could you tell me, what is Barnard’s understanding of student’s need? do they take into account how much my family can pay for my education? or they do not look at it and can give me even bigger award than I need?
I mean can I count on net price calculater’s numbers? I used it and it showed me much bigger grant than I expected to receive from Barnard…</p>