<p>Yep, sure do. I don't even walk in or out in front of a girl.</p>
<p>It is just being a gentleman. I do not seriously think that females are physically unable to hold the door open themselves. At all girls schools they seem to manage. God! Sometimes I can't stand feminists...</p>
<p>No offence, guys, but if you are with a girl (as in, on a date), and you do not open the door for her or pull out her chair for her, don't expect to get a second date (or first, as the case may be). I am a girl, even a bit of a feminist at times (not to any extreme degree though) and I don't think it's sexist, I think it is polite. People should not confuse courtesy for a sexist habit or try to make "holding the door" a bad thing. Take out your self-righteous indignation somewhere else. Perhaps doing it all the time, when you don't even know the girl, when in public etc is a little excessive, but at least open the door for yourself and hold it so it doesn't close in the next person's face, no matter who they are.</p>
<p>Well, I'm a masculist at times and I say that, as a feminist, you should realize that if we, as men, don't hold the door open for other guys, don't expect us to hold them open for you. Equal, remember? Also, sometime feminist, women need to keep things in perspective. If he's paying fifteen bucks to show you a good evening, I'd think any "courteous" woman would be able to overlook something as petty and insignificant as holding a door. If he gave you a choice between holding a door and paying for your dinner, which would you choose?</p>
<p>I can't stand being polite. i dislike greeting people, and much less holding doors for women. it hurts my pride and my gigantic ego. it makes me feel as if i have to lower myself to a state of a sycophant just to get respected by women. men, why do lower urself so? be like me and have overwhelming confidence that women will come to u and respect u simply on account of ur GREATNESS.</p>
<p>Oooo, 15 whole dollars...big spender, are we?</p>
<p>Fifteen whole dollars is more than zero whole dollars. Or lip service...</p>
<p>i open doors for guys and gals if i notice someone behind me.</p>
<p>i've especially been conscious of it ever since my friend, after eating somewhere, let the door slam on some little girl's face.</p>
<p>i laughed, but it was a laugh of pity. :(</p>
<p>Are you kidding? Of course.</p>
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<p>I think we should make a distinction between classical feminists (the ones who pushed for equal rights and equal treatment under the law) and contemporary feminists (the ones who hijacked feminism into "men and women equal in all respects").</p>
<p>Contemporary feminists are the ones who suggest women should kill men at a higher rate to equal the man killing woman homicide rate, families create social constructs, and women not having the doors held for them is sexual liberation. They are clowns.</p>
<p>(I also find it funny how Bill Clinton's "womanizing" never lost him support of feminists while feminists consistently intimidate conservative women on the basis of their activism being "bad for the image of the gender.")</p>
<p>Good post, trancestorm. I'll admit it: I'm a chivalrous guy. That's the kind of man I want to be. However, I'd like women to cut the BS out about feminism and equality. The world works better for them if we allow some inequality, assuming their definition of equality meaning "same". Equal doesn't always mean same.</p>
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<p>Eh, I was just being silly. </p>
<p>Anyway, Trancestorm hit the nail on the head. </p>
<p>I really don't like referring to myself as a feminist because of how crazy contemporary feminism has gotten. Under the law, we are people before we are male, female, black, white, etc. but it's silly to try and say everyone's equal (or the same, as jason put it) in every way.</p>
<p>There are general differences between all of these different groups (while there are certainly exceptions to every rule), so why not embrace those differences instead of pretending that they don't exist? </p>
<p>The other day I was participating in a women's study for my school's Psychology department and was seriously shocked by some of the questions. Basically it was a "angry femi-nazi" type thing...and yeah...that sort of attitude makes me very uncomfortable. One of the questions was actually along the lines of, "When interacting with males in everyday life, do you look for ways that they are being sexist towards you?" I was just sitting there thinking, "Wow...there are some really screwed up people if they just sit around looking for a fight like that."</p>
<p>I think most of the feminists should:
a) Get laid.
b) Get a life.
c) Grow up.</p>
<p>I understand feminism when it comes to not giving women right to vote or preferring man with SAME qualities (exclude most of the hard work).
But acting against holding the door for a lady is humorous to argue against.
It is complete marasmus.</p>