<p>When you're doing it just to get attention rather than for a good motive.</p>
<p>aha true. Unfortunatly that is very true.</p>
<p>I'm in the south and always have been. Its just a common courtesy that guys hold the door open for girls. Is it offensive? Not in the least bit. Its just here in the South guys are taught to be gentlemen...its not a sexist thing, its called being polite. I hold the door open for anyone if they are behind me (I'm a female) just because its the polite thing to do.</p>
<p>thank you futureHsTeacher8 ... thank you</p>
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<p>I was just saying that people need to realize that feminists have killed/are furiously trying to kill chivalry, and that in this day and age, some of these "chivalrous" actions (like the 'noble' deed of taking a drunken woman home) could be misconstrued as some kind of assault, and so its good to know when to draw the line. Holding doors is probably not going to get you into too much trouble, yet...</p>
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<p>See, that's exactly why I don't like to call myself a feminist. What's wrong with doing something nice for someone? Especially if you're dating.</p>
<p>I think the problem is that chivalry is generally interpreted as "men should do nice things for women just because they're female", which is incompatible with the feminist idea that both genders should be treated equally. Obviously that's not to say that there's something wrong with people being nice to each other.</p>
<p>I don't ride buses but I think, though, that if I were on the subway and the seats were all full, and some guy gave up his seat for me to sit down, I would probably assume it was because he was getting off the next stop or the person next to him smelled really bad, or something. I dunno, that just strikes me as really strange.</p>
<p>Is it also completely unfeminist of me to ocassionally bake brownies and cookies for guy friends just to be nice?</p>
<p>Uh, why would it be? </p>
<p>I bake brownies for myself. I should probably give them to other people instead. Would be healthier. =X</p>
<p>i hold doors for old ladies. Sometimes for girls my age. When I hold doors for my aunt she goes, "good dog, good dog, yes, good dogs hold doors for people." When she says that I just feel like slamming the door at her face.</p>
<p>Part of being a gentleman is assuming that women are weaker. Makes sense.</p>
<p>part of being a feminist is assuming that men and women are equal in every way and there are no esoteric traits pertaining to the two sexes</p>
<p>generalizations make a lot of sense don't they?</p>
<p>If I can bake to be nice, it shouldn't be an issue for a guy to open a door. That's my point. </p>
<p>I dunno, maybe that only makes sense to me.</p>
<p>You're opening a freakin' door for someone, what the hell is the controversy?</p>
<p>Heck no. Girls can get the d a m n door themselves.</p>
<p>Anyways, if a girl is in front of me then no. If I know someone is behind me, regardless if it's a man or woman, I'll hold the door. I do it out of politeness and courtesy; it's how I was raised and it makes me feel better.</p>
<p>feminists should be eaten by werewolves then.... (only the mean ones)</p>
<p>if a guy can't hold a door open for someone else without being called a rapist/anti-feminist/sexist biggot, then i just don't know ....</p>
<p>At my school, almost everyone holds the door open for people, they will even wait for people at the door. Ladies first unless it would be awkward, as some doors are door, a few feet and another door.</p>
<p>Yes</p>
<p>I do regardless of sex. And it says something to me if the people don't say thanks. As holding the door is common courtesy, so is saying thanks.</p>
<p>I think that this is where feminism went horribly wrong. This kind of stuff (a guy giving up his seat for you, holding the door for you, paying for you) is awesome and should definitely be socially acceptable. A woman should be able to hold power/leadership positions, be strong, whatever. But chivalry in the polite way should be able to continue. It BENEFITS women--why reject it?</p>
<p>Why should this tradition be perpetuated? Why are guys and usually not girls expected to hold the door open for the other sex. Also, why doesn't society expect guys to hold the door open for the same sex as well?</p>