<p>Just thought I'd post the top 10 UK universities as many people on here are interested in the UK., which were released today by thecompleteuniversityguide.</p>
<p>1) The University of Cambridge
2) London School of Economics
3) The University of Oxford
4) Imperial College London
5) Durham University
6) Warwick University
6) St Andrews
8) University College London
9) Bath
10) Lancaster.</p>
<p>This ranking is one of the more reputable sources, but LSE and Oxford probably should be swapped. and UCL higher up.</p>
<p>Can you read? I clearly said that the positions of LSE and Oxford should be swapped and UCL should be higher up. Just because you don’t agree, it doesn’t make it false, the statistics don’t lie, so by the specified criteria, the table is accurate in that sense. It’s probably more reputable, then the other UK sources because all the top 10 members are in the top 10, unlike some tables, which place Imperial outside of the top 10, and Bath 5th. In terms of your second point, Durham, Warwick, St Andrews and UCL are pretty much in the same group, with Imperial and LSE both slightly above UCL, so slight variations betwen the former three is meaningless,the difference between 6th and 7th is trivial.</p>
<p>Statistics don’t lie? Maybe, but they don’t tell the truth either. If they did then surely every rankings would have similar results. In fact they’re all very different and fluctuate wildly every year.</p>
<p>I disagree, I don’t think it’s particularly reputable and Durham and Warwick are not in the same group as UCL. These sets of rankings are neither the most important nor the most trusted so their results are largely irreverent in my view.</p>
<p>Rankings vary wildly depending on which one you consult. For example, UCL is 4th according to the Times but 8th in the Complete University Guide, 5th in the Guardian and 7th in the Sunday Times.</p>
<p>The Times (THES)</p>
<p>1 University of Oxford
2 University of Cambridge
3 Imperial College London
4 University College London
5 University of Edinburgh
6 London School of Economics
7 University of Manchester
8 King’s College London
9 University of Bristol
10 Durham University </p>
<p>The Complete University Guide</p>
<p>1 University of Cambridge
2 London School of Economics
3 University of Oxford
4 Imperial College London
5 Durham University
6 University of St Andrews
7 University of Warwick
8 University College London
9 University of Lancaster
10 University of Bath</p>
<p>The Guardian</p>
<p>1 University of Cambridge
2 University of Oxford
3 University of St Andrews
4 London School of Economics
5 University College London
6 University of Warwick
7 University of Lancaster
8 Durham University
9 Loughborough University
10 Imperial College London</p>
<p>The Sunday Times</p>
<p>1 University of Cambridge
2 University of Oxford
3 Durham University
4 London School of Economics
5 University of Bath
6 University of St Andrews
7 University College London
8 University of Warwick
9 University of Exeter
10 University of Bristol</p>
<p>There are many different league tables where relative rankings may change depending on how different criteria are weighted. However, from an international prestige point of view, I believe most people would agree that Cambridge and Oxford are the first tier, followed closely by LSE and Imperial in certain particular courses only (for example, economics and law at LSE; engineering at Imperial). All the remaining top English universities (UCL, Durham, less prestigious Imperial/LSE departments, Warwick) are one tier below and the likes of Manchester, Exeter, Bristol, Loughborough, etc. are way down.</p>
<p>Of course statistics don’t lie, but this table has LSE’s graduate prospects at 88% and Oxford at 79% There is nothing to dispute about that, and that is ultimately the aim of going to university. I would never say LSE is better than Oxford, but clearly in terms of employment, the gap is very close.</p>
<p>I understand, your opinion, but the top 8 are generally perceived as the top 8 in the UK, so in that sense, I think its relatively accurate. I think I would prefer to listen to the advice of my father who is a MD at a bulge bracket, when he says Warwick, UCL and Durham to a lesser extent, are roughly equals in terms of employment. Think of it this way, a UCL grad will never beat out a Warwick grad for a job, simply because they went to UCL ceteris paribus However, this may be true for Oxbridge and LSE. I’ve lived in the states, and obviously its a different story there.</p>
<p>No it isn’t wrong - where are you looking? I’m using the THES website.</p>
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<p>That seems utterly nonsensical to me, how can you compare the graduate employment prospects of Oxford or UCL with specialist institutions like LSE and Imperial. I’m sure that if one just concentrated on individual departments LSE and Imperial wouldn’t do half as well.</p>
<p>Well, it looks like at least some people (those with strong academic credentials) think Warwick, Durham, and St Andrews are in the same group as UCL. Look at the data on entry standards. The top-10 ranking based on entry standards is as follows:</p>
<p>Both the LSE (87.8) and Imperial (87.1) have better employment prospects than Oxford (79.8) and Cambridge (84.4). The specialist nature of the former two shouldn’t matter. If there was a hypothetical merger between LSE and Imperial the result would be a comprehensive university, in the same vein as Oxbridge and UCL, with the highest employment prospects in the UK.</p>
<p>I now see your point, and would agree. The fact that Oxford offers courses like History of Art will skew the figures, especially considering that nearly every LSE and Imperial course is employment friendly. I’m curious as to why Cambridge doesn’t suffer a similar fate to Oxford, considering that they also offer a similar amount of subjects. UCL is a great school, but in my honest opinion, think that it should be brought a notch down, its the third best in London, and even if we concentrated on individual depts, LSE and Imperial would both be above it. Its only UCL’s perfomance on the global tables, which would suggest that its closer to Imperial and LSE than Warwick, Durham and St Andrews.</p>
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<p>Apologies, I assume you are using the world rankings and ordering the UK universities? I thought you were using the national table.</p>
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