<p>This thread is really depressing.</p>
<p>Some people need to think a little harder.</p>
<p>lol. maybe I don't hang around enough smart people, but from the poeple that i hang around with, there's really little little knowledge of Dartmouth or Brown beyond being an ivy. no one really knows what they are good for.</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins is not all that hope2getrice. Although I would put it ahead of Rice.</p>
<p>Among people who are knowledgeable about college but wouldn't be found on CC. Based on a rough "average" of their prestige across the country. (Look at me, trying to pretend there's a method behind my madness)</p>
<p>Harvard
Stanford
Yale
Princeton
MIT</p>
<p>Caltech
Columbia
Brown (Chicago among people who know it)
Duke
Northwestern
Dartmouth
Cornell (Johns Hopkins among those who know it)
UPenn
Notre Dame
Georgetown</p>
<p>in terms of prestige and name recognition, Johns hopkins is more well known among many crowds than even Columbia.</p>
<p>Sure, it's obviously not all that. We're talking about recognition. Duke, U Penn, northwestern, etc, often get you an incredulous look from certain crowds.</p>
<p>Well I suppose anything is possible in "many crowds."</p>
<p>i meant to say most crowds.</p>
<p>I have never heard anyone say Hopkins is superior to Columbia or Brown (or more prestigious), a top 10 school? I think not. I know many people who turned down Hopkins for Wash U, Northwestern and other peer schools. It does have around a 30 acceptance rate after all.</p>
<p>no one's talking about ranking here, smarty. Prestige is how well a school is known and perceived...not necessarily by a bunch of immature 17 year olds</p>
<p>and no, most people would give you an incredulous look if you said brown.</p>
<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>University of Pennsylvania</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Caltech</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
</ol>
<p>Honorable Mention: Berkeley, Vanderbilt, NYU, Northwestern, Wash U, Rice</p>
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and no, most people would give you an incredulous look if you said brown.
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<p>Haha where do you live that Brown gets an incredulous look and Hopkins is considered more prestigious? Let me guess you went to Hopkins? People always complain but the bigged correlation with prestige is selectivity. Schools more prestigious than Hopkins at a bare minimum:
HYPSM
Penn, Columbia, Duke
Brown, Dartmouth
Cornell and then you could maybe even throw in Chicago</p>
<p>than you get to schools like Hopkins, WUSTL, Northwestern</p>
<p>Honorable mentions too: Berkeley, Gtown</p>
<p>R u kidding emory is no pretender</p>
<p>lol this thread is so pointless...</p>
<p>Bescraze, if prestige is ranked by difficulty of getting in, then WUSTL, Georgetown, and Deep Springs would eeach be more prestigious then lovely little Cornell.</p>
<p>haha. it's lovely that you think I went to hopkins, but the truth is that prestige is about the connotations associated with the name of a school. Deep Springs is terribly hard to get into, but if you mention it even to people in academia, you will more than likely get a look of either incredulity or confusion.</p>
<p>When people think of Brown, they go "what's it good for?" or "is it in the south?" and people in academia will note it for it's lax grading system.</p>
<p>And no, i don't shill for Hopkins. I think Columbia is more prestigious, as is Wharton, HYPSM obviously. But i doubt you can find a single intelligent person who has never heard of either Hopkins Medicine, Hopkins SAIS, or Hopkins Public Health, just as you can't find a person who hasn't heard of Yale Law, U Penn Wharton, Cornell Hotel School, Harvard Law, Harvard Medicine, Columbia Law, etc.</p>
<p>But Brown? ha. Dartmouth? Where is that again?</p>
<p>Sorry, but that's the truth.</p>
<p>and btw, Duke isn't that selective at all. It's on par with WUSTL and Georgetown. lmao. </p>
<p>If you want prestige by your way, i guess Deep Springs or IIT is the way to go. lol</p>
<p>
Considering that WUStL has higher</a> test scores than most of the Ivies, that's not a bad thing.</p>
<p>I went on vacation to Texas one time for a couple months, and here's the most prestigious universities in Texas.</p>
<p>first tier</p>
<p>UT Plan II (verrry selective Honors Program)
Rice
HYPSM</p>
<p>second tier</p>
<p>Basically everywhere else</p>
<p>Honestly, I know plenty of Texans that have zero idea what Williams or Middlebury are, but trust me, every single Texan knows, respects, and treats like Gods Rice and UT Plan II grads.</p>
<p>seriously, prestige is regional, in Maine noone has heard of Rice or Plan II, but everyone knows about Middlebbury.</p>
<p>But there are schools that transcend region, like pretty much every school on Ny0rker's list.</p>
<p>
There is a difference between name recognition and prestige. Very few average Southerners know most of the schools on Ny0rker's list, but that doesn't mean they're not prestigious.</p>
<p>I hate the concept of prestige, but my list would be as follows:</p>
<p>Brown University
California Institute of Technology
Columbia University
Cornell University
Duke University
Dartmouth College
Harvard University
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Northwestern University
Princeton University
Stanford University
University of California-Berkeley
University of Chicago
University of Pennsylvania
Yale University</p>