Top Canadian Universities vs US colleges

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<p>From education quality point of view, how do Canadian top universities compare with US colleges? In other words, excluding financial/cost factor, what kind of US colleges "deserve" Canadian students to apply?</p>

<p>Here is my view,
1. All ivy league colleges plus other universities ranked top 15
2. All top 5 LACs
3. Other top 30 private universities, question mark?
4. Other top 30 LACs, question mark?
5. Top 5 public universities, question mark?
6. All other colleges/universities, no competitive edge comparing with Canadian universities</p>

<p>Would anybody share opinions?</p>

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<p>It is really field-specific. What field(s) are you interested in?</p>

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<p>Undecided, but probably business and/or environment studies.</p>

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<p>I would compare McGill and UofT to like UMichigan. Big public school, but very different culture. Maybe Cornell but thats kind of pushing it.</p>

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<p>Business: McGill Desautels sucks (but somehow has some traction outside of Quebec) and Rotman is somewhat better. Yet Rotman is somewhat below the likes of NYU Stern…</p>

<p>Environmental studies: you can’t go wrong with U Toronto.</p>

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<p>How is Rotman compared to Queens and Ivey?</p>

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<p>Rotman is a very good business school, Ivy and Queens, along with Schulich (the disadvantage of Schulich is you have to go to York) are right up with it as the top business schools in Ontario and along with Desautels and Sauder they are the top business schools in Canada. For example looking at the QS rankings, these 6 schools are in places 12-16 and 18(Queens) of the top 200 business schools in North America. They are a all rated above NYU’s Stern at 19. </p>

<p>[US</a> & Canada | QS TopMBA.com](<a href=“http://www.topmba.com/mba-rankings/region/us-canada]US”>http://www.topmba.com/mba-rankings/region/us-canada)</p>

<p>The financial times has Rotman as the top Canadian Business school (admittedly at a lowly #45 in the World) Schulich (52), Sauder (57) and McGill (76) also crack the world 100.</p>

<p>[Business</a> school rankings from the Financial Times - Global MBA Ranking 2013](<a href=“http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2013]Business”>http://rankings.ft.com/businessschoolrankings/global-mba-ranking-2013)</p>

<p>The rankings by the Economist are here:</p>

<p>[Which</a> MBA? | The Economist](<a href=“http://www.economist.com/whichmba/full-time-mba-ranking]Which”>WhichMBA?)</p>

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<p>Thanks, these are MBA rankings. Any clue on undergraduate education?</p>

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<p>When I said McGill Desautels sucks, it’s for undergrad. </p>

<p>Yet somehow, McGill Desautels still has some traction outside Quebec (while within Quebec, Concordia Molson and HEC have better undergraduate reputations; even though HEC is primarily a French B-school, undergraduate programs are offered in English also)</p>

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<p>Catria, could you give some specific reasons for your opinion?</p>

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<p>There are more undergraduates who attend B-school at McGill who transfer out to a variety of programs (Molson, Schulich, Queen’s, Ivey are names that come up often when transferring out of Desautels, while HEC, Rotman and Sauder are invoked to a lesser extent) than the other way around. That might be the only sign that there is something wrong with Desautels that I’m aware of, though. Because I knew a couple of physics dropouts who ended up going to B-school instead. I might be biased towards local reputation, though.</p>

<p>Perhaps there were those students who nevertheless lucked out and still managed to get a good business education out of Desautels…</p>

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<p>Catria, can you post a link to something that supports this statement? A website, a study or whatever? Or is this just what you have “heard”?</p>

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<p>But even so, there are several Canadian B-schools that are at the same level as Desautels or better. I wouldn’t deny that Molson, Schulich, Queen’s, Ivey, Sauder, Rotman (add HEC if one is willing to consider French B-schools) are all fine B-schools, though. Maybe I overestimated how much Desautels sucked…</p>

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<p>Yes, you most certainly did. Especially since you are not a McGill student.</p>

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<p>It is really unfortunate that there is so much misinformation being repeated here on this and other forums, McGill offers one of the highly regarded commerce programs in Canada. </p>

<p>It would appear that some individuals with no personal first hand knowledge of McGill or commerce programs may be giving out incorrect advice to others, and denigrating a highly reputable and excellent University. I wonder if many people may be simply repeating what they have read on various forums, thereby perpetuating untruths and misrepresentations.</p>

<p>To publicly post unsubstantiated negative claims about a school and hurting students who are enrolled in or previously attended the McGill commerce program border on being mean-spirited and perhaps malicious, imho.
I really wish students would consider their words carefully in these public forums.</p>

<p>From my personal research, there is a group of highly regarded undergrad business programs in Canada, McGill’s Desautels being one of them. I have been spending time researching each of these programs and communicating with students, former students, professors and business professionals. It is my understanding from speaking with professors and business professionals that these commerce programs are all excellent. Each of these programs is somewhat different, each with its own unique set of strengths and perhaps shortcomings. Each program and University provide a unique learning environment for their students, and it is a matter of each individual finding the best fit for himself or herself. </p>