<p>I know its like comparing apples to oranges but if you could go to any Graduate/professional school in the world, which would you choose (considering that admissions is not a factor and you're guaranteed in) and why? I know this is PURELY hypothetical but I thought it'd be fun.</p>
<p>Wharton or whatever the top b school is. Far more money and a lot less work to get in with an Ibanking firm and rake in the cash than any other school. (this coming from a medical student). Of course I wouldn't be able to stand living in NYC, but it's all hypothetical.</p>
<p>I would go to medical school at UCSD or go to law school at USC</p>
<p>Business school: Harvard, Wharton, Stanford, Columbia come to mind.</p>
<p>Yale Law School</p>
<p>Law: Yale, Harvard, Columbia
Medicine: Harvard, Johns Hopkins, UCSF
Business: Wharton, Harvard, Stanford</p>
<p>You really can't go wrong with Harvard when it comes to the "Big Three"</p>
<p>Harvard, Yale, and Stanford are the top law schools.</p>
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<p>What, according to USNEWS?</p>
<p>Thanks, but I'll base my list on my own ACTUAL WORK experience working with L aw School grads from Y, H, S and Columbia. That's not to say that Stanford isn't awesome, it is - but in the end, Columbia's instant access to New York (Wall St. law firms, judicial clerkships, etc.) give it a slight edge over Stanford (in the real world).</p>
<p>Basically, if I were choosing grad schools, my list above constitutes my Top 3 in each discipline respectively.</p>
<p>Northwestern is good in law and business.</p>
<p>I'd definitely put Harvard in all 3 categories. </p>
<p>Law: NYU, Yale, Harvard
Med: JHU, UVA (I like it), Harvard
Business: Wharton, Tepper, Harvard</p>
<p>For Medicine - Stanford and Johns Hopkins. No doubt.</p>
<p>I'd say that in all cases, there are 10 or so excellent programs. </p>
<p>Top Business Programs:
Columbia University Business School
Dartmouth College (Tuck)
Harvard University Business School
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
Northwestern University (Kellogg)
Stanford University Business School
University of California-Berkeley (Haas)
University of Chicago Business School
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor (Ross)
University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)</p>
<p>Noteworthy MBA programs:
Carnegie Mellon University (Tepper)
Cornell University (Johnson)
Duke University (Fuqua)
Indiana University-Bloomington (Kelley)
New York University (Stern)
University of California-Los Angeles (Anderson)
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill (Kenan Flagler)
University of Virginia (Darden)</p>
<p>Top Law Schools:
Columbia University
Harvard University
New York University
Stanford University
University of California-Berkeley
University of Chicago
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of Pennsylvania
University of Virginia
Yale University</p>
<p>Noteworth Law Schools:
Cornell University
Duke University
Georgetown University
Northwestern University
University of California-Los Angeles
University of Texas-Austin</p>
<p>Top Medical Schools:
Columbia University
Duke University
Harvard University
Johns Hopkins University
Stanford University
University of California-Los Angeles
University of California-San Francisco
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of Pennsylvania
Washington University-St Louis
Yale University</p>
<p>Noteworth Medical Schools:
Baylor University
Cornell University
Northwestern University
University of Chicago
University of Washington
Vanderbilt University</p>
<p>Schools that are elite in all three graduate programs:
Columbia University
Harvard University
Stanford University
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of Pennsylvania</p>
<p>Aleixandre did a fine job. The shorter version may look like this:</p>
<p>Top Med school: Harvard, JHU
Top Law school: Yale, Harvard, Stanford (aka Trinity)
Top Business school: Wharton, HBS, Stanford, Sloan, Columbia, Kellogg, Chicago</p>
<p>No wonder Harvard is so well known to the world ..:p</p>
<p>i'll do my field- clinical psych</p>
<p>Berkeley
Michigan
Oregon
Rochester
UCLA
UPenn
Wisconsin
Yale</p>
<p>Penn is also an elite medical school. ;-)</p>
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Schools that are elite in all three graduate programs:
Columbia University
Harvard University
Stanford University
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of Pennsylvania
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<p>Hmmm. What's wrong with this picture? And if you didn't know anything else - i.e. you just read the above quote - who would you gather the author would be - take a wild guess folks!</p>
<p>Harvard and Stanford can certainly make the "Elite Big Three" claim without any hesitation or argument.</p>
<p>Columbia's Law and Business programs are definitely "elite" (i.e. can make credible Top 5 claims in both fields) - its med school is a worthy Top 10, so Columbia can credibly also make this "Elite Big Three" claim.</p>
<p>Penn is in a similar position given that two of its "Big Three" grad schools - namely its B-school and Med school are both widely recognized as Top programs (with Wharton making a credible claim as the No. 1 B-School), whereas its Law school rounds out a Top 10 rank. So Penn can also make this "Elite Big Three" claim.</p>
<p>Which leaves us with Michigan. </p>
<p>Michigan can't claim a Top 5 rank in any of the big three (Law, Business or Medicine). Let's (for argument's sake) take a look at USNWR's rankings for Mich:
- Law: No. 8 (only rank inside Top 10 and near the bottom at that)
- Medicine: No. 11
- Business: No. 11</p>
<p>So, "Really, Really Good Big Three"? Yeah. "Elite"? Nope.</p>
<p>Remember, the definition of "elite" is that it is head and shoulders above everyone else and, perhaps more importantly, that very few can make such a claim. Michigan isn't in the same company (isn't in the same neighborhood) as Harvard and Stanford who can rightfully state that their schools boast "Elite Big Three" programs... Columbia and Penn can at least claim to be in the right neighborhood.</p>
<p>The point? To counter Alexandre's continual subliminal-like advertising that Michigan is somehow = the Harvards and Stanfords of the world. It just simply isn't.</p>
<p>Ivy_Grad, Michigan's Law school is considered top 5, as is its MBA program. It's medical School is ranked anywhere between #6 and #11.</p>
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<p>According to whom? Not even USNWR can help you here. Let's break it down:</p>
<p>**Law Schools<a href="widely%20recognized%20rank">/b</a>:
1) Yale
2) Harvard
3) Stanford
4) Columbia
5) NYU</p>
<p>USNWR Law Rank
1) Yale
2) Stanford
3) Harvard
4) Columbia / NYU (tied)
5) Chicago</p>
<p>Gourman Report Law Rank
1) Yale
2) Stanford
3) Harvard
4) Columbia
5) NYU</p>
<p>Now let's look at B-schools:</p>
<p>**Top B-Schools<a href="widely%20recognized">/b</a>:
1) HBS
2) Wharton
3) Stanford
4) Kellogg
5) Columbia / MIT / Chicago</p>
<p>USNWR B-School Rank
1) Harvard
2) Stanford
3) Wharton
4) MIT / Kellogg (tied)
5) Chicago</p>
<p>Businessweek B-School Rank
1) Kellogg
2) Chicago
3) Wharton
4) Stanford
5) Harvard</p>
<p>What do all of the lists above have in common? No Michigan anywhere... "where's Waldo dude?"</p>
<p>Alexandre, please back up your claims that Michigan is a Top 5 Law or Business school.</p>
<p>Nice try Ivy_Grad. You want me to back up my claims. Well, here you go:</p>
<p>Businessweek's historic average has Michigan at #5. It has been ranked between #2 and #6 7 of the 9 times. I am pretty sure Ross will be ranked in the top 5 or 6 again this coming October. </p>
<p>Unless you think BW is not a good ranking, I'd say Michigan's MBA program is worthy of top 5 consideration.</p>
<p>Michigan's law school is ranked #2 by Gourman (I have no idea where you got your Gourman rankings) and #3 by the Insider's guide. According to Barron's, Michigan, along with Yale and Harvard forms the "holy trinity" of Law schools. The Wall street journal feeder survey looked at the placement ratio into top 5 Law schools, business school and Medical schools and Michigan was one of the 5 Law schools selected by the WSJ. </p>
<p>There is no such thing as exactly 5 top programs in any field. For Business, Wharton, Kellogg and Harvard are the top 3, but after those three, there are roughly 4 or 5 programs that compete for top 5 honors and Michigan is one of them. Yale and Harvard are generally considered the top 2 Law schools. Another 5 (Chicago, Columbia, Michigan, NYU ands Stanford) compete for top 5 honors. If you look at the Peer Assessment scores, both according to academe and to practicing professionals, Michigan ranks among the top 5 or 6 in Law, Business and Medicine. There is very little doubt that Michigan is elite in Law, Business or Medicine.</p>
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<p>ok, my bad. Michigan is indeed ranked No. 2 by Gourman. I fully acknowledge that.</p>