<p>I'm wondering about top Northeast colleges, preferably Liberal Arts or small universities, that are not need blind for ED. I know a number of them say aren't need blind for wait list but they are pretty elusive about being "need aware" during the ED process. Vassar is need blind for ED, for sure, and the Ivy's. What about schools like Rochester, Brandeis...Colgate, etc.? Thanks so much!</p>
<p>Not these schools: [Need-blind</a> admission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Need-blind_admission]Need-blind”>Need-blind admission - Wikipedia)</p>
<p>I am not aware of any schools that change their policies between ED and RD. (Some schools may be need aware for wait listed candidates.)</p>
<p>Need blind simply means they will not consider your economics in making a decision to accept or deny. It does not necessary mean they will “meet your need” when accepted.</p>
<p>I’m trying to get a list going of these Top Schools in NE that will be need aware when they are looking at ED applicants and comparing one kid against the other.</p>
<p>(whether or not they do the same during RD and knowing that they do it for wait list.)
And I have a full understanding of what need-blind and “meeting need” means.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>You need to ask the schools specifically. THings change all of the time, and the way the economy is, I suspect that some schools will be tightening some of their need policies. Schools don’t always announce these things. Many schools that announce they are need blind do not list the areas where they are not need blind for admissions such as for international, wait list, transfers, etc. Or if they do, it is hidden.</p>
<p>cpt is correct about schools changing things up. But in my humble opinion it’s a rather irrelevant data point. If you cannot afford a school but are accepted you cannot attend anyway so where is the value in acceptance without regard to financial need? It’s somewhat no harm no foul in my opinion.</p>
<p>Just a guess here ---- nycny, are you saying money is not an issue, and therefore you’d like to apply somewhere ED as a strategy to gain admittance?</p>
<p>Well, if the OP has no need and has an ED school targeted then the OP should just apply. I still am not getting the point of the OP’s original question or what difference need blind or need aware makes in the grand scheme of things to the applicant.</p>
<p>Colgate is need-aware in admissions, so it is logical to assume that they are need-aware in ED as well as RD. NYU practices enrollment management with its finaid program (more loans to the bottom of the app pool), so I’m guessing that full pay ED would be a big plus.</p>
<p>on the national universities the top 20 are good bets for need blind and on the liberal arts list somewhere around 15 or 16. After that on the ranking there are numerous colleges that meet 100% need but will turn down a number of apps for high need. Further down the rankings the "gapping’ starts.</p>
<p>Colgate is need aware.</p>
<p>Yes, Hey Alb.
Thanks bluebayou, susgeek,speedo. That was helpful. Some parents are so helpful. And some seem to spend a lot of time on this board with the purpose of kicking around kids and other parents and telling people how stupid their questions are. It’s made me not want to ask questions here. I wish some of other old timers who are so helpful could help eliminate that culture.</p>
<p>I also am not aware of any schools whose policy regarding being need-blind or need-aware changes between the early decision round and the regular decision round.</p>
<p>Old timers! I resent…I mean resemble…that remark!</p>
<p>I THINK that, if you mark that you will NOT be applying for aid…they’ll “get it”.<br>
However, that doesn’t really help you to know in advance, and maybe help narrow your choices so you don’t have to apply EVERYWHERE. I would think that, in these dire economical days…there might be some “nudging” that direction. I frankly feel there probably already IS an unwritten/unspoken effort to “get out the money”. Dunno what you mean by “top schools”, but…what about NYU? They are pretty stingy with aid overall.</p>
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<p>For having only 10 posts I don’t see where you have particularly been kicked around. But for an adult or anyone to ask you or anyone to clarify a question or to try to ascertain what it is you are looking for so your question can be answered reasonably is not “being kicked around.” If you were not making this comment about your own situation then it was a comment coming out of left field. Personally, I’m still not sure what you are looking for but I do wish you good luck in your college search.</p>
<p>nycny, I wanted to add that my eldest daughter applied to and was accepted to Colgate as a financial aid student. Colgate was extremely generous to us and I can’t say enough nice things about the school - well besides the torch ceremony which was terrifying ;)</p>
<p>I think the OP wants to use the advantage of not needing aid in order to pick a favorite need-aware school for ED application. Wish I could help!</p>
<p>Edit: Whoops, I see heyalb got it.</p>
<p>vossron</p>
<p>if that is indeed the case then the student has a good strategy, it’s a great time to be a full payer or even a 3/4 payer.</p>
<p>momofthreeboys:</p>
<p>OP would like to apply to a school who is “need aware”. They have the money to pay full fare, and he would like that factored into the consideration regarding admittance. Just as some Ivies will recruit athletes who will sit the bench, but bring up their athletic GPA…many schools will admit a good student, who might otherwise be “on the cusp” (along with MANY other students)…but they know they can get the full fare from this student. Why admit one who is equally qualified but can’t pay, when you have another who can? Thereby creating more in the “black” column to help fund for those exceptional students who can’t pay. Very valid search. I’ve considered this myself. We’re not ridiculously “well off”, but haven’t been hit AS hard in this economy as some. So I’d also like to think that the amount we CAN pay…might help nudge an otherwise “fence sitting” admittance over onto the “yes” side of what might otherwise be considered a “reach” school. From your responses to OP, it seems you might be looking at this in the opposite way than the one in which it was intended.</p>
<p>OK, OP would need to check these if there is interest because as another poster said, it’s changing because of the economy and I don’t have time to double check, but here’s the list from the last application season of NE schools that are “need blind” so any school but these would be “need aware.” There are a few in the middle atlantic, but the OP did say NE.</p>
<p>Amherst College
Boston College
Bowdoin College
Columbia University
Cornell University
Georgetown University
Haverford College
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Middlebury College
Northwestern University
Swarthmore College
University of Pennsylvania
Wellesley College
Wesleyan University
Williams College
Yale University</p>