<p>How hard is it to transfer from an econ major in the college of arts and sciences into the Wharton School? </p>
<p>I really want to go to Wharton, but the chances of that are next to nothing so I'm wondering if I could just major in econ and if it doesn't work out, try to transfer.</p>
<p>From what I’ve heard, it’s VERY hard. Apply to Wharton if that’s where you truly want to be.</p>
<p>you’ve got to have the grades for it - 3.8 or so after freshman year</p>
<p>and that’s the only thing that matters, assuming you’ve taken the right classes (like econ)</p>
<p>how about switching from SEAS to CAS? how high must ur grades be?</p>
<p>my chances were next to nothing too. I’m not only in Wharton but in the JWS program too. Just apply. You never know.</p>
<p>SEAS to CAS, the requirement is about a 3.0 i think…that one is supposed to be relatively easy.</p>
<p>there’s no reason not to apply to wharton to begin with. that’s what i suggest that you do. otherwise, you can transfer if you have an awesome gpa yr first year in the college. but why would u want to do that if u know u want wharton? if u really want it, there must be a good reason and then u should just apply to it directly…</p>
<p>hmm is it possible to transfer to CAS before starting freshman year?</p>
<p>nope you can’t switch until you finish a year</p>
<p>its all grade driven?</p>
<p>3.8 is all the req???
definitely going to CAS —> Wharton sophomore year :)</p>
<p>3.8 is darn hard. All your classes are on a bell curve and A’s are not A-'s. If you finish all A-'s (which is stellar) you’re still not ‘good enough’ for wharton (3.7 versus 3.8). Just apply to wharton right off the bat.</p>
<p>don’t bet on getting the required gpa freshman year</p>
<p>and it’s kinda sad, incidentally, when wharton freshmen get below a 3.0 and can’t transfer to the college</p>
<p>Necro: I think the bell curve only applies to wharton and advanced math and science classes. Aren’t I correct?</p>
<p>^And lots of intro courses like econ. its also tough to get an A over an A- in some courses (like romance languages for me). You could arrange your schedule to be very easy and still have to work very hard to get over the A- -> A hump. Lots of the Wharton transfers I know are engineers anyway who took intro engineering physics, chemistry, math, etc. I’d argue that it’s almost easier to get an A in Chem 101 than Spanish 110 because you just have to be smarter than 25% of the class instead of averaging above 93% on everything.</p>
<p>no, there’s a curve in the majority of classes</p>
<p>Just explained this in another thread, but yes there is a curve in most intro classes at Penn. I sincerely hope people don’t treat the College like a backup and a means to get into Wharton. Wharton is more difficult to get into, but the College is still pretty damn tough to get into as a freshman, so if you want to do Wharton, apply THERE and not to the College. For all intents and purposes, your chances are the same – not very good!</p>
<p>It’s relatively agreed upon that College courses are more difficult in terms of course work and grading than Wharton courses are, so thinking that after having a 4.0 in high school you can come into the College and get straight As is laughable. If you take a random 50 of my friends and acquaintances at Penn, only two have higher than a 3.8 GPA. Most have between a 3.5 and 3.7. So if you apply to the CAS, don’t expect to be able to transfer to Wharton. As for transfer to the College, as others have said, that’s a 3.0 minimum after two semesters.</p>
<p>For the record, the reason for the grade difference is based pretty much on capacity for each school. Wharton is a smaller school than the College, so admitting more students would take away from the student:faculty ratio. The College has more faculty, more buildings, and more programs so it can handle far more students than Wharton can. Wharton only accepts as many transfer students as it loses each year.</p>
<p>agreed. it’s really stupid to apply to the college if that’s not what you want. that makes no sense. it’s much easier to get into wharton than it is to get a 3.8 in sas.</p>
<p>also, ppl in sas love what their doing so it would be kind of weird if u were interested in a different program…</p>
<p>that said, from what i’ve heard, it’s easier to get a high gpa in the college than it is at wharton because the wharton curve kills (not too excited about that) and i don’t think sas kids are as competitive w/ each other because the curve is not as competitive, which is a good thing.</p>
<p>this year i got into dual degree with wharton and SEAS. 3.8gpa. And it was pretty hard. You really have to study hard to get in.</p>
<p>congrats, drnoeyedea. was this after your first year in SEAS? what major?</p>
<p>nychica, that’s actually not true. Wharton is more competitive, but that’s because it’s a business school. That said, the Wharton curve is very helpful for people who put an honest effort in. The other thing is that the Wharton curve only applies to core courses; upper level courses and electives are at the discretion of the professor. Plus, most CAS courses have curves at the intro level, so while it’s not direct competition like MGMT100 is, the fact is that you need to perform well relative to your peers to do well in just about every large lecture class in the College.</p>
<p>But yeah, going to the CAS as a stepping stone for another Penn Undergraduate program is very silly.</p>