<p>Okay so I was reading another post on here and it made me think about something.</p>
<p>So I took a Business Law class at my CCC and in the college catalog it stated:"Fall 2012
RECOMMENDED PREPARATION: BUS M28 or ENGL M02 CAN: BUS 8. Transfer credit: CSU; UC maximum credit allowed - one course if combined with BUS M34."</p>
<p>In Fall 2012 when I took the course and every semester prior to that the UC's gave transfer credit for this course.</p>
<p>So my question is: Since I took this course prior to them changing this to not being counted as a transferable course do I still get credit for it (i.e. being grandfathered in). OR am I just screwed and I took this class for nothing and it will not count?</p>
<p>This is what it says now: "Spring 2014
RECOMMENDED PREPARATION: BUS M30 or ENGL M02 Transfer credit: CSU Applies to Associate Degree. CAN: BUS 8."</p>
<p>@Matt4200 reading some of your older posts I thought your GPA was 3.15? What is your GPA? Too many conflicting reports. I think you will be grandfathered in, but you should ask your CC. They will be the best resource in this matter.</p>
<p>@stanx89 My UC Transferrable GPA AFTER the fall 2013 semester is a 3.25 but might be a 3.266 if they don’t count the Business Law Course.</p>
<p>I Aced a few classes this Fall and got one B so I’m doing better than before. At the start of Fall 2012 my GPA was 2.11 so I’d say I’m on a good upward trend.</p>
<p>Okay but wouldn’t it have been the UC’s choice to stop giving transfer credit for it?</p>
<p>Also, would there be any benefits to getting credit for this course or not?</p>
<p>It dependent on if that course is UC transferable. I think you can verify on assist.org. Like I said I think the best resource is your CC. Ask them if you can review the articulation agreement with the UC system. It might even be available online. The benefit would be a better GPA, if it is UC transferable. If not there is no benefit. Your upward trend will be taking into account at least at UCSB, but at the more competitive UC’s you applied to where they have cut off GPA it might be really difficult to get admitted with a GPA below 3.5. I know at UCSD they don’t read personal statements, so their transfer admissions are strictly based on grades. I think your a good candidate for admissions to the mid tier UC’s but UCSD,LA and Berkeley will be a reach.</p>
<p>at UCLA the average admitted GPA for sociology was a 3.74 that means very few people were admitted that had stats below a 3.5. The average applied GPA was 3.36 that means majority of applicants with the bare minimum were declined. Just something to keep in mind while awaiting a decision.</p>
<p>The UC’s have tons of great applicants with heartbreaking stories and they simply can’t admit them all but I wish you luck when applying.</p>
<p>Okay so I just looked on Assist and it lists Business M33 (Business Law) as a course they accept transfer Credit for at the UC’s. I wonder if this is just an error by my CCC or what by saying it’s only CSU transferable.</p>
<p>I know UCLA, UCSD, and UCB are all long shots, I never really planned to go to any of those schools, I completed the TAG for UCSB and just fulfilled the TAG requirements as of Yesterday though my GPA would probably get me admitted anyways there. If I get in to UCLA, UCSD, or UCB I probably would not even go just because it’s very rigorous and plus UCSB is on the ocean, I basically applied to see if I could get in and if I get in I’m told that because of that then the mid tier UC’s like UCSB will offer me more money to be competitive, but I think if the upper-tiers were to give me more money in the end I’d consider going there.</p>
<p>Like they say, “Hope for the best but expect the worst”.</p>
<p>What’s your cumulative GPA so far using LSAC’s standards? If you’re around a 3.0 I don’t think LS would be a wise option for you. </p>
<p>Any LS worth going to is going to cost you $200,000 before the debt even kicks in. Seeing as you’d likely have to be a super splitter (lower GPA, high LSAT) to get into a T14, you’d certainly be paying that sticker price. </p>
<p>The legal market is scary right now. You really need to make sure you’d be happy with a Sociology degree in case LS doesn’t work out. If your heart is absolutely set on LS, I’d suggest you work your tail off to get above a 3.5 GPA and start prepping for the LSAT ASAP.</p>
<p>I don’t really care about getting into a great law firm, if you’ve read my other posts you’d know I plan to start at the public defender’s office.</p>
<p>I plan on going to the U of M Twin cities which is where I’m from, Minnesota.</p>
<p>They’re in the top 20.</p>
<p>I was told once you start at a UC your GPA starts at 0 again and you need to build it up from there is that true?</p>
<p>Like say I went to UCSB for a couple years, got my BA with a UC 3.70 GPA and an average LSAT score would that get me in?</p>
<p>Also I was told UCSB has a nice pre-law program (not as good as UCB or UCLA but nice)</p>
<p>Not a good idea? </p>
<p>I’d rather struggle for every dollar I get than have someone hand it to me and be able to say, " You only have that because of me". </p>
<p>I admire self-made men and want to be one someday, built from the ground up.</p>
<p>The only reason my GPA is how it is is because my first couple semesters I really could’ve cared less about college and didn’t know what I was doing, I was just going because that’s what people did they went to college, I knew I wanted to help people but it wasn’t until my 4th semester that I really figured it all out and got my head in the game.</p>
<p>Sorry if I’m not perfect, All I can do is try my hardest to reach my goal.</p>
<p>No one is questioning your goals or drive to succeed. We are just trying to alert you to somethings you should be aware of. I know for graduate school every single course that you attempt is counted into your GPA for admission consideration. Even those you took at a JC. Your GPA does start over at a UC but they will average both GPA’s when reviewing your app for law school. I don’t know if anyone on here can accurately answer hypothetical questions, but if your aiming for a Law school, especially one in the top 30, they would expect you to be applying with an above average LSAT and and a great all around GPA. </p>
<p>I don’t think anyone on here is questioning your character either. We are just trying to give you advice and answer your questions in the best way possible. I’m proud of you, considering where you came from and where you are trying to go. I say you keep at that goal. </p>
<p>One final piece of advice. I recommend that you do research on everything you want to know because most people on here cannot answer your questions accurately. You ask to many what if questions.</p>
<p>I wish you luck during the application process. I know how hectic it can be. If it’s meant to be it will happen.</p>
<p>What if I go to a UC law school like UCLA or UCB since I would be transferring from UCSB would they still look at CCC coursework?</p>
<p>I appreciate the input, but in my lifetime I’ve found there’s always an exception to the rule and I have been that exception many times, I’m not some silver spoon kid who’s rich daddy wants him to go to law school and be a lawyer, I’m a first generation, Foster youth, low income, individual who’s overcome many obstacles to be where I am and maybe that’s not good enough but the best I can do is the best I can do.</p>
<p>Thanks and I know you guys aren’t trying to question my character I understand that you guys are just saying what you believe will help, it’s just one of those things that I need to do, not for my own personal gain but so I can help people.</p>
<p>Oh and so the LS’s are going to look at all of my CCC coursework lets say I get all A’s in the Spring, and one more A in the summer bringing my UC GPA up to a 3.48 does that help me at all or not really?</p>
<p>One piece of advice I can give you if you want to maximize your chances of doing well on the LSAT is to start studying for it now, Matt4200. Take prep courses if possible, buy practice booklets, AND, if you can, try and take a class in symbolic logic. It covers just about all of the logical subject matter that is seen on the LSAT.</p>
<p>With a higher LSAT score(Maybe 160~165+), you can offset your lower GPA. You should still work on increasing your GPA, sure, but a higher score on the LSAT will help. A lot.</p>
<p>It does not matter where you go. All LS will evaluate your JC coursework. Law school or graduate school of any kind have their own separate admissions process. That in itself can be difficult. No easy routes to Law school.</p>
<p>I say take it one step at a time. Get admitted to a University graduate and then you can look into law schools. it’s too early to prejudge your outcome.</p>
<p>Well considering LS is based on logic and critical thinking. I would recommend something along those lines; that will help to build on those qualities.</p>
<p>It’ll definitely sharpen your analytical skills. This can only help you if you want to go to law school. Definitely take a few courses in logic, especially symbolic logic.</p>
<p>“I don’t really care about getting into a great law firm, if you’ve read my other posts you’d know I plan to start at the public defender’s office.” </p>
<p>Lol. Dude. You need to get on TLS right now. PI is incredibly hard to get. This isn’t a joke, this is your future we’re talking about here. I don’t care if “it’s just one of those things that you need to do.” This decision will have a drastic impact on the rest of your life. And it’s important for you to know that the odds aren’t in your favor. </p>
<p>Pull up another tab and create an account on TLS right now: [Top</a> Law Schools](<a href=“http://www.top-law-schools.com/]Top”>http://www.top-law-schools.com/). No single employer is going to care if your daddy is rich or you’re a former homeless person. Your grades, interviewing skills, school, and ties are going to get you a job.</p>
<p>“I plan on going to the U of M Twin cities which is where I’m from, Minnesota.”</p>
<p>That’s rad. Here are the stats and plan accordingly. You can find medians at LSN if you want those. Here are the 25th/75th percentiles: 3.36-3.89 158-168</p>
<p>Seriously, lawl school is a huge investment. We’re talking well over $200,000 dollars if you get into UofMin bro. Do you realize how much money that is? Are you okay with working in Minnesota if you do get in? Because that’s a regional school. If you don’t know what I’m talking about or if you don’t know how important this stuff is, you need to catch up on TLS and understand what you’re getting yourself into. I’ve been on TLS for 3 years now and I’m still learning new things everyday. </p>
<p>“What if I go to a UC law school like UCLA or UCB since I would be transferring from UCSB would they still look at CCC coursework?”</p>
<p>UCB and UCLA LS both emphasize GPA. Heavily emphasize. You’re going to need to get that GPA up much higher if you want in at those schools. Unless you’re an URM. </p>
<p>My advice to you is to shoot for a 180 on the LSAT. I think prep classes are a joke personally. Buy yourself some MLSAT books (my favorite) and get drilling. Also, buy some real LSAT tests from previous years. Good luck.</p>
<p>@snorlaz, I don’t think this guy understands what he is getting himself into. He thinks he is the only one in the world who came from hardships or had horrible things happen to them in life. I wish him luck in his journey to law school.</p>