Transfer out of NYU --> Ivy

<p>Hi,
I'm a freshman at NYU (CAS, Scholar) and I'm going to be applying for transfer to a bunch of ivys. i have a few questions:
-which departments are really good at columbia that are not as great at nyu? (so that i can somehow justify to them y i want to transfer)
- are there specific departments that each of the ivies are really good for?</p>

<p>(i'm pre-med but i'm not sure what major i'll be)
so far for fall 2006:
Bio: A
Chem: A
Chem Lab: A-
Cognitive Psychology: A
Freshman honors seminar - Chaos and Randomness: A
GPA: 3.97
H.S. GPA --> about 92
SAT: 800 (math) 770 (verbal) 720 (writing)
770 (math IIC) 680 (chem)</p>

<p>now im taking bio, chem, calc I, and world cultures russia</p>

<p>thanks!</p>

<p>Uhhh...the ivies are very good at a lot of things. You'll need to be more specific.</p>

<p>You should consider WashU in St. Louis - their pre-med is very good and you'd probably be in.</p>

<p>man, i hate reading how all these foos wanna go from their good school over to another school based on reputation! People, if you are already in a good school, quit trying to transfer over because u want to show off that you go to an ivy or something...</p>

<p>I'm ok with people transferring from anywhere to anywhere, provided the reason is more than just "I don't my present university and I haven't made an attempt to like it." And in a lot of cases that's exactly the reason.</p>

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<p>mojojojo, dont make assumptions about people's situations please. i did not post my question on here to be criticized. my high school was no more than 20 blocks away from nyu so i'm tired of this neighborhood and atmosphere so i want to go someplace else - except it's not worth it for me to transfer anywhere worse than nyu, so i'm applying to those schools. </p>

<p>and brand - thanks, i considered washu but i decided against applying there. i guess, specifically, do u know if any of the ivys are particularly good in anthro, fine arts, renaissance studies, history, religion, or anything along those lines?</p>

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<p>lol, i dont have a problem with people transferring, its just that the reasons i see on here are just not good...</p>

<p>i didn't ask u or anyone else, including laneb here, to judge my reasons, i only asked for advice. if u can't give it, keep your hands away from the keyboard please.</p>

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<p>Mojojo, if I were an undergrad NYU student I would want to transfer too (but heck I wouldn't be there in the first place), even to a tier3 or 4 school. NYU is the most overrated school for it's price (which is roughly the same as an Ivy or top20 college where you can get a MUCH better education). OP I don't blame you for wanting to go. </p>

<p>But-- I wouldn't really shoot for an Ivy since that's just shooting for the stars having stepped out of NYU. Look at Siena college, Reed, Montana State U., Univ. of Nevada, and some good SUNYs like Albany and Binghamton if you want to stay in the New York area. Good luck.</p>

<p>You are a prime candidate for transfer, considering your academic record- it seems you would have been a decent freshman candidate and you have a great undergraduate GPA. Most of the ivies i.e. Columbia, Harvard, etc. require you to complete a full academic year before transferring though; otherwise you will be forced to apply as a freshman without credit. Personally, I believe you have a reasonable chance of being admitted to Columbia, even though the transfer rate is lower than 10% (suprisingly it is harder to transfer from a higher ranked school, which may be an issue for you unless you manage to form a great reason for leaving).</p>

<p>You will have to research the ivies yourself, instead of asking us to formulate justifications for you.</p>

<p>Link:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=189063&page=2%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=189063&page=2&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>Well... at least you recognize that your current reasons are rubbish.</p>

<p>A question you need to answer. Do med school admissions use your grades from your first college? Right now you have a fantastic gpa. If you start over and your old grades do not count towards gpa you will possibly be giving up all this hard work. Remember GPA+MCATS= admission to med school which is only around 50% for anyone who applies.</p>

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since that's just shooting for the stars having stepped out of NYU

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<p>Actually, it's not. NYU seems to be a breeding ground for successful transfers to the most prestigious schools.</p>

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good in anthro, fine arts, renaissance studies, history, religion, or anything along those lines?

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<p>I imagine every ivy is very good in those subjects. </p>

<p>I wouldn't limit yourself to solely ivy league schools as there are plenty of others that are comparable or in some cases better. You say religion; have you looked into NYU's philosophy department, which is often considered the best in the nation???</p>

<p>And not to jump on the bandwagon here, but you will need excellent reasons to transfer from NYU. Going from a good school to an even better school is not a walk in the park and I imagine many ivy-rejects think they can "just transfer in after a year," making the competition likely fierce and perhaps homogeneous with regards to top school applicants.</p>

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have you looked into NYU's philosophy department, which is often considered the best in the nation???

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<p>That they have a good Ph.D program does not mean that their undergraduate program is correspondingly good. I would choose Amherst philosophy, for instance, over NYU philosophy for undergrad.</p>

<p>Yes, to add to nsped's post, please learn to distinguish between graduate degree programs from undergrad departments. This is precisely why I said I wouldn't go to NYU for UNDERGRAD, because the university itself wouldn't be that bad for graduate or professional school. Also, the urban metropolis environment is a huge upside to a graduate student studying there, but a huge DOWNSIDE for an undergrad, who's supposed to immerse himself in a traditional-university campus setting where their minds are nurtured purely on the good milk of academia, without contamination from the vice-ridden, material, corporate world outside. </p>

<p>To sum, OP, yes I recommend transfering, but the schools you aspire to are just unrealistic. It isn't enough-- no, it DOESN'T MATTER-- that you have a 4.0 or high board scores because all the students at these ivies (and the successful transfer students) ALREADY have that, and if they don't they have incredible personal achievements to more than compensate.</p>

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<p>The presence of a strong PhD program will typically reflect on the intellectual caliber of the teachers you have. As such, I wouldn't be quick to shun NYU's philosophy department merely due to the size of the univerity. I imagine the upper-level classes offer a rich and unique experience under some amazing professors.</p>

<p>Still, I would prefer a school that has a focus on the undergraduate education AND is good at philosophy, like Dartmouth, Reed, or Princeton, in addition to Amherst.</p>

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who's supposed to immerse himself in a traditional-university campus setting where their minds are nurtured purely on the good milk of academia, without contamination from the vice-ridden, material, corporate world outside.

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<p>Actually, what so many find appealing about NYU is its city location; there is no "bubble" that you find at many colleges. The life of the mind is great, but being able to study effectively and juggle a social life/intern opportunities in the financial capital of the world is a talent that many at secluded college campuses may wish they had mastered.</p>

<p>Sergio - you are incorrect that the OP is aspiring too high. Her GPA/test scores are spot on for top colleges - what really matter are the essays/reasons and recommendations.</p>

<p>OP. I think that your scores are great. But, I agree with the posters who stated that you should have a bit more on your list of transfers than just Ivy's. Better to have a good backup plan and all of that, eh?</p>

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<p>What does that mean?</p>

<p>You can set your account to iggy (aka ignore) whoever you feel the need to...you know...ignore. That is all. I am going to edit my post, because it was rude to broadcast who I have currently set on ignore.</p>

<p>brand_182... did you read my post?<br>
I acknowledged that she has high GPA/test scores (for an NYU student, anyway). I also said that it didn't matter how high they were, because nowadays it just aint that hard to get a 2400 SAT or 4.0 GPA, (especially in schools like NYU). </p>

<p>Yes, many-- most-- people go to NYU because they think "OOOhhh lala it's Noo Yawk city baby! partayyy, clubbin downtown, shopping on 5th Ave everayday!" Is that how a smart high school senior would choose a college? Perhaps this is an explanation for the school's undergrad weakness.<br>
Don't get me wrong, I love NYU, I did a research project there under a great professor and won a Siemens award back in high school-- but that was with a senior professor who only taught grad students.</p>

<p>Stop giving this guy false hopes and give him real advice. Transfer to an ivy league? Come on now. There is NO chance. ZERO.</p>

<p>in response to the comments on why i'm only applying to ivies - i have a very low efc and only ivies can give me enough financial aid to have it be affordable. i have a really good scholarship at nyu right now (but would be payin less at an ivy), and most schools, except the ivies, dont give enough money to transfer students. if i don't get in this year, i'll apply again next year, but it still will be to the same schools, for the same reasons.
my first app, for harvard, is due feb 15. i've researched it already, so please dont send comments telling me do that, but if there is anyone here who either went there or knows more about it, can u tell me more about what premed life is like there, and how it fits with fullfilling the required courses, and having room to take a few science elective and humanities electives. and how good is its religion concentration?
thanks
what is OP by the way?</p>