Hello, guys sorry for the long message but it is necessary in this case.
I got to a large college and was hit with academic dishonesty and is on my transcript. I also got an F in the class which is permanent, and most likely all my credits for the semester will be gone.
At this point, I am just thinking of reapplying to new schools and start fresh. I’m only a freshman and it has not been a semester yet.
My question is, will the schools I will be applying be notified? The problem is, this is not a transfer from one university to another. It’s more like opting out of my current university and applying somewhere else as a high school student.
um, someone can correct me if i’m completely wrong, but I’m rather certain that colleges do get notified of the academic dishonesty violation that is on your record, and that F will show up on your transcript(s).
i’m sorry, but what I’m inferring from your post is that you’re wanting to transfer colleges because of the fact you got caught for AD, which colleges will see directly through and reject you based on that alone. furthermore, since you’ve been enrolled in a college and have taken classes at the institution, the likelihood of you being considered as a high school student is pretty abysmal. like, close to, if not, 0%. so this…
is not correct. you’re not “opting out” of anything.
If you were a matriculated student, you will be considered a transfer. There is a national clearinghouse for US colleges so you need to disclose that you were a student elsewhere. If you don’t disclose and you get caught later, your diploma can be revoked.
Don’t compound one mistake with another. You are going to need to own up to what happen and work with your advisor to figure out a path forward.
I am not sure I understand why all of your credits from the semester will be gone? Is it an option to stay at your current school? Are you taking classes second semester?
The National Student Clearinghouse has a record of all transcripts from all colleges that a student has attended, so yes, schools will find out you have attended college…so don’t be dishonest when applying elsewhere.
Because you have completed a semester of college, you will be considered a transfer student at most schools, and will have to report your grades and transcript from the college you are currently at.
There are some schools that may consider you as a freshman, depending on your specific situation…you will have to do some research on that. Community college would certainly be one option, as would other open enrollment universities.
Unfortunately, by cheating you have created a big mess.
Your plan isn’t feasible. And please clarify why ALL your credits will be gone? Are you being expelled?
If you aren’t being expelled, you need to pull yourself up by your bootstraps and get to work. Meet with an academic advisor to figure out how to tackle this problem. Get good grades. Make an appointment with the campus counseling center. Get therapy if you need more help. Come up with a plan to study properly, use the tutoring center, and utilize professor office hours.
What lead to you cheating? That’s an issue you must address in order to succeed at college. If you can pull together a plan, based on what I suggested above, maybe you can petition to be reinstated.
If you are expelled, I suggest starting fresh at community college and proving yourself. Get great grades and reapply to other schools. There is a path for you, but it may not be the one you originally planned. People do move forward after making mistakes, and if you can do that, you will be a better person for it.
I’m sorry I didn’t disclose this information. I’m actually at an international school, and in this country they don’t have records of who cheated, or committed any kind of academic dishonesty. Instead, they get a fail for the class, and lose all credits for the semester, and most likely get suspended. Therefore, the effect is less detrimental than US colleges. I am attending a school in asia, and here, it is common for people to reapply one, twice, or even three times to get into the college they want. Many will get into their safety college and pay tuition for a year without actually attending so they can apply to their dream school next year (if they didnt get in that year), so if they don’t get in the second time they can still secure the spot. Otherwise, they move to their dream school if they do get in. Here, the schools are not “connected” like they are in the U.S. Sorry if the question seemed out of context.
I’m sorry I didn’t disclose this information. I’m actually at an international school, and in this country they don’t have records of who cheated, or committed any kind of academic dishonesty. Instead, they get a fail for the class, and lose all credits for the semester, and most likely get suspended. Therefore, the effect is less detrimental than US colleges. I am attending a school in asia, and here, it is common for people to reapply one, twice, or even three times to get into the college they want. Many will get into their safety college and pay tuition for a year without actually attending so they can apply to their dream school next year (if they didnt get in that year), so if they don’t get in the second time they can still secure the spot. Otherwise, they move to their dream school if they do get in. Here, the schools are not “connected” like they are in the U.S. In other words, credits dont get transferred. You go to a new academic institution, you have to take all their credits. Thus, none of my AP credits and other things were able to be transferred. Sorry if the question seemed out of context.
I am not sure if your college is in the database, but it would be best to be fully open and honest with any new school. Have you been expelled from your current school? Is that why you lost all your credits? Do you how have a transcript with F’s, or no record of classes, or what exactly does your transcript look like? What is in your record?
I think it makes a difference what your academic dishonesty actually consisted of, and how you reacted when caught. At some schools, if you are a freshman, and admit to what you did, you get a warning and an educational program on academic dishonesty, plagiarism and so on.
Even if it is possible to run from this, or hide it, I think you should be up front with schools that you apply to.
No, I’m actually planning to apply to another international school. I also have a school in the U.S., however, for backup. I got into Purdue last year and I requested a gap year which was accepted. I don’t think they will ask for any transcripts since I cited another reason for my gap year. But I most likely would not chose that option, and would like to seek another university from the area.
But you didn’t take a gap year. I have no idea whether your transcript at an international school will be requested by any new schools. If you don’t tell any of them about the school where you were disciplined and expelled, you are basically continuing on a path of dishonesty. You might be caught or not. That isn’t really the issue. What have you learned?
The US colleges and universities have no tolerance for people who cheat and are dishonest.
Students also do not have tolerance for other students who cheat; it gives a black mark to the school and students.
If you can’t control your dishonest behaviors, you need to get some counseling help to find out why you feel the need to cheat and be dishonest.
I vaguely remember another student in an asian country asking for similar advice (I think for them it was simply low grades that were magically going to disappear at the end of the semester, not cheating) involving some scheme that we were not able to decipher. So many things are wrong in your scenario. Is this what happens when prestige and grades come before learning and mastery? I don’t know. What I do know is that you are giving Purdue, that you consider beneath you, a bad name just by mentioning it in your unbelievable post and subsequent answer. The fact that college admissions supports so much scheming should be a wake-up call to all.
Academic integrity is a big deal at Purdue. Good idea to seek another school because you’d be expelled if caught cheating at any step of the process, including withholding transcripts.
It’s not beneath me at all. I attend a private school and I wont be able to afford it after wasting 1 year of tuition. The tuition schools in my current country are around 5k. I don’t understand why you are assuming such things. if I can afford it, I gladly will attend.
You can’t apply as a high school student because you’re not one. Purdue might not accept you if you violated the terms of the gap year agreement, so you’d likely have to apply to a new list of schools. When you apply to US colleges you have to include the transcripts from your current school in your application. But no matter where you go, even if you leave your record behind, your habits and ethics will follow you. If you cheat in the US you can be expelled, sent home, and not permitted to return. If you lie on your application and are caught, you can be expelled, sent home, and not permitted to return. Admission for Asian students is very competitive, so your current classmates, faculty, and advisors all have something to gain by exposing you. Whether it’s a possible admission for themselves or one of their students doesn’t matter, and it only takes one. If the ethics don’t bother you the risk of being outed should.
But if finances are such an issue that a $5k tuition in your home country is unaffordable, how would you be able to afford an education in the US? Travel expenses and insurance will cost more than that. And there’s far less money to go around this year.
Your best option is probably to get an (honest) degree in your country, take the time to get better acquainted with ethics, and apply to US colleges for grad school.
At this point theres no arguing but ill just clear things up. Currently I am at a private school that is just as expensive as US public school (such as Purdue). If I quit my school, now, I would have wasted a year worth of tuition, and moving back to a US school will make it alot worse as I will be paying 5 years worth of tuition. What I’m talking about is transferring to a PUBLIC university in the SAME country, which has a tuition of 5k, which if I go there will actually end up becoming more financially beneficial at the end compared to staying in my current private school anyways (even if I wasted 1 year of tuition on it). This is why coming back to the US was my last option. This thread literally gave me no answers to my question so I’m ending it here.
I think people were responding to your decision to use a US college as a backup. I think these boards are mostly focused on US schools, so I don’t know if anyone here knows if you can transfer to a different school in your own country and pretend that you’re a high school student. If you have to lie, I tend to think the answer is no, but the advisors at your current college should be able to tell you what your options are.